Beware of the Dildo

[tommygunz]

Originally Posted by deanventure

350

... Thats the magic number. The is the most people that have attended a "Rave" in Chicago in the past 6 months. If you throw a good quailty event you will lose thousands, you build an event so you lose a little money or break even everyone bitches. Events are a lose / lose situation. You can flyer and promote your ass off online, and you will still draw the same 350 kids.

i find alot of flaws in ur logic there bro

if you throw a good quality event, the people will come, and have a damn good time, and bring more of their friends for the next party, in the long term this is the best business strategy, and even if they dont bring their friends next time, fuck it they had a good time. mission accomplished. you lose money yes but thats really nothing new around the scene here. this is not a lose situation in my eyes, if people beyond a doubt had a good time and show their appreciation.

but if you throw a shitty party, but break even cause the few people who came paid more than they should've, theres a high number of dis-satisfied customers who probably wont show up to the next 1-3 events just cause of the shitty time they had(i'm not talking about any one party or company here by the way). then you just lost out a whole lot more than you would've had in the long term. on money AND respect. and respect is 10x harder to get back than money.

so 350 you say....you gotta ask yourself why is that? theres alot more ravers than that in chicago and the midwest(a whole lot). why is that number so small? why were the numbers larger last year? its because quality events haven't been happening. and alot of those 1000 ravers that attended wonderland massive a couple years ago got bored of the same ol shit that followed.


the only way that chicago as a scene are going to raise above this 350 is to throw quality events that no one can complain about and will want to bring their friends into. something they can be proud of. otherwise its going to go back to how it was in 2005 with attendance being in the 1-200's and a party only every couple months, whats that gonna lead to, $50 presales?


and fyi i'm entirely confident that light it up is going to exceed 350, not tryin to brag/talk shit but we've sold alot of presales =]

[Mattie-Z]

Originally Posted by gadesxion

I agree with this point, i just wanna point somethin out, cuzi think maybe its relevant.i got a couple friends down in SoCal, and from what i hear they pay 20-30$ minimum for a typical party and up to 60$ if theres a sick lineup. That is unheard of here, just to put it in perspective. Not saying LUcky charms was totally worth what i paid, but i still have a good time and dont see that much reason to bitch. Iv blown 20$ on much stupider things..

The prices are higher because the quality of the events are higher. Better line ups, better secured legal venues, and better sound/lighting, to say the least. I didn't think twice about dishing out the 80 for Purenation. 11 hours of international edm talent was completely worth it to me. Wouldn't you pay more for a party if you were guaranteed it'd go on all night with a superstar line up with attendance considerably >350 people?

Look:


And they'll sell out their presales at 70 a pop.

Moral of the story: Chicago prices can't be compared to Cali prices. The events/festivals are on two completely different levels.

[tommygunz]

lol @ that lineup

also lol @ the fact that i've seen atleast 2 other flyers of that same caliber, for the same weekend, in cali.

[DarkMindz]

all good points Tommy

maybe people being pissed can be a positive thing. Revolutions are never started when things are going well...

I really miss the masses of kandi kids and the couple hundred asian people who would be in large groups at parties before.

seems like people are just feeling meh about everything. even with pretty good lineups recently, its sad to see the turnout. wen it shoudl be so much more.

but if peopele, who are iffy on goign to a party, read all this; most likely they will not take te chance.

oh well gonna go get krunk. tis spring break

[Mattie-Z]

Originally Posted by tommygunz

so 350 you say....you gotta ask yourself why is that? theres alot more ravers than that in chicago and the midwest(a whole lot). why is that number so small? why were the numbers larger last year? its because quality events haven't been happening. and alot of those 1000 ravers that attended wonderland massive a couple years ago got bored of the same ol shit that followed.

Really good points there, Tommy. Everyone remember Streetraver around this time last year? It took me 20 minutes to get through the people to go from room to room. And the lineup wasn't even that great by any means. When bruisepusher's set ended, the sun was fully risen and the sweaty condensation was still dripping from the skylights. I personally haven't seen the sun rise from a venue since.....Nt3 lol...

[gadesxion]

Originally Posted by Mattie-Z

When bruisepusher's set ended, the sun was fully risen and the sweaty condensation was still dripping from the skylights. I personally haven't seen the sun rise from a venue since.....Nt3 lol...

Thats another thing, what happened to sundown-sun up raves? I heard the new years one down here in uiuc went the full 8pm-8am but i didnt stick for it.. I miss coming out exausted and being all like, whoa its morning!

[tommygunz]

Originally Posted by gadesxion

Thats another thing, what happened to sundown-sun up raves? I heard the new years one down here in uiuc went the full 8pm-8am but i didnt stick for it.. I miss coming out exausted and being all like, whoa its morning!

i dont think u'll be seeing too many of those around chicago ;p

but i think source had the right idea with that jingle bass afterhours, it'd be nice if after all the legal events we had there was some small scale event at a underground spot we could all go to to party. like 2-5 bux to get in and just have some tables and a speaker setup. if it gets busted whatever, its 5-8am anyways lol.

[Velcro Warrior]

Originally Posted by Mattie-Z

...with attendance considerably >350 people?

mmmm, Stellar Spark NYE party

[tommygunz]

Originally Posted by Velcro Warrior

mmmm, Stellar Spark NYE party

we're talkin about chicago parties....

[feelgoodhit]

yeah, for sundown to sun-up parties you've got to go to those psy parties i keep mentioning around the boards... including the one you used as an example. ;]

[Velcro Warrior]

Originally Posted by tommygunz

we're talkin about chicago parties....

Thats cool

[feelgoodhit]

YOU'RE cool.