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#145
4.4.2006, 3:53 pm
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I feel you X-raver. I started partying Upstate in '94 (basically stopped in '99/'00) and since I was only an hour and change away from the City I got to enjoy the Tri-State Parties and the NYC events. I hit most of the Monkey parties, early Boo's, Amazura joints, Carbon before it turned to Exit and Earth or whatever, Vinyl before it turned into Arc and now condos, the sketchy but fun Planet 28, Octagon, Wetlands, etc. I miss those days like the friends I lost contact with at those parties. The people who I use to see each weekend, whether I knew their name or just their face, are all missed like those days of the "raves". I feel a sad loss when I think of those times.
I am pleased to see that there are some people trying to keep it correct, although it'll never be the same. You are right in that aspect. The music is unfortunately limited to bad "happy hardcore", high NRG UK Hardstyle and D&B. The only one of the 3 that isn't total crap is the D&B, but it's still lost something. Only recently have I started to hear new D&B that is interesting. Whenever I play a "rave" today, I always try to bring something new to the table or drop an Old's Cool set to teach and share some timeless tracks. Unfortunately, not as many people are open to the sounds that are played. Probably a reason I don't play "raves" as much. Many kids today are programmed to the short attention span music of the styles above. It's a sad fact, but it will never stop me from trying to school or open eyes to new sounds and styles. In conclusion, I think X-Raver is saddened by the loss of a great scene we had. Don't worry, there are a bunch of us still. I also think if kids today would look beyond the politics, drama and bad music they could go far and possibly get to a point that they could never imagine. Peace Love Unity Respect Have we forgotten the meaning? "Rave 'til Dawn" 
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#146
4.4.2006, 5:52 pm
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x raver you complain about all these new homo candy kids at ravers...you obviously have never heard of Micheal Aligs ClubKids then huh? They paved the way back in 1989 for all these fruity homo kids today...so in conclusion....there have ALLWAYS been fruity homo kids dressed all Faggoty in the dance scene....whether your a club kid or a candy raver...
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#147
4.4.2006, 6:01 pm
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As far as X- Raver's opinion on faggy ravers......yeah the whole faggy thing is a pretty lame angle to be cranky about especially since "raves" were an outlet for them to go to and feel accepted. I do feel that "candy" is fuckin' lame, silly and childish, but that kinda goes into my whole thing about short attention span music of the last 6 years. I'm not hating, I'm just giving my $.02.
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#148
4.4.2006, 7:47 pm
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#149
4.4.2006, 9:26 pm
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Pink Panther is the cause
Ok. I just looked at this kids pink panthers myspace thing. This kid is a prime example of what I am talking about. This kid is a joker. Just please look through his pictures and this is my whole complaint. A true candy raver who calles normal looking people homos. See we got shaved heads and wear nice normal clothes but we used to take lots of extacy and shove 40 jars up my fucking nose. But we looked like normal people. I dont need people trying to look like a cartoon. Why cant people just dress nice and normal do they not realise that they look way better. Yes if you are seriously a fag then it is ok to dress diffrent. But if you are a man and like pussy then you need to look good. You cant look like 95% of the kids in Pink Panthers Myspace pictures.
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#150
4.4.2006, 11:41 pm
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#151
4.4.2006, 11:55 pm
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Hey.. I goto raves For the Music... the ex... the music.. the ex.. & then to see every dressed up having good time..
The sht some PpL come up with is funny.. You know fun?? there just trying to have fun!! Gay= Happy Look it up!! so yea man were all gay as fuck... Y the Fuck dose it Matter what som1 is wearing??? i mean i don't dress all crazy.. Like most others do.. But what the fck is Homo about it??? there having fun thats all that should fucking matter!!!! so pull the broom stick out your ass and Make some fun in you area You want somthing done Right Do it Yourself Fuck! Btch btch btch.. thats what Fcks shit up PpL who fucknig Bitch there way around everywere... instead of getting off there ass and Fixing what they bitch about.. You have no right to Bitch untill your worknig hard to change it!! then mabee Just mabee you could have the right to Bitch alittle bit about your Work... but even then No1 wants to hear it... I don't know about the eastcoast... But thats way things go down were im from..
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#152
5.4.2006, 10:30 am
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you dont understand???idiots...
You dont understand my point about people dressing like homos. I guess you are a idiot then. My point is that yes it is ok if there are the few ravers who you see every week who dress up like crackheads, there is nothing wrong with that. It was there at my 1st party and will be at my last. That is not the point. Again, the point is that now a days people try to homo each other out. I mean try to dress the stupidest and its like half the party now. No real ravers go anymore so all it is is the candy kids and now their little brothers and they compete to dress like the biggest reject. There is only one excuse to have everyone dress up and it is very fun and a good time, MaskaRave halloween and thats it. It like halloween in freakin July in these gay ass basement club "raves". Thats why. Has nothing to do with fun. Halloween is real fun I think but once per year. Not every damn week freakin idiots. Only the real few who are 1. older and know what raves are 2. have been doing it for years 3. have been going to parties for years. Everyone else is a pathetic wanna be raver dragqueen. So please give me a freaking break about this dressing crap. It is not fun it is imbarrising to the whole scene. Not because people do it becuase 1/2 the party does it now.
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#153
5.4.2006, 11:47 am
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I see where you are coming from. You are entitled to your opinion. But maybe ravelinks isn't the ideal place for you to find like minded people. RL is mostly compromised of present ravers who love the scene, enjoy the scene and don't have huge issues with it as you appear to. There are very, very few of us here who are not involved with the underground, and probably less who aren't involved with the drugs.
 I am sure many of your points about the progressive nature of society are accurate: we have come a fair way from a few aspects of the old days, for example; how some men choose to dress. History reflects a signifigant pattern: change is INEVITABLE. No matter how you look at it, social structures do not last forever, in fact they are rapidly renewing themselves like never charted before in time. Fashion is a prime example of how old things reinvent themselves, and while being so utterly different from the original, bare overwhelming resemblence and similarity to the ways of old. Man-made constructs are not going to be exactly how they were ten years ago. Maybe not even Five years ago. The built abiotic world must move with it's makers; it must evolve - and thought it may continue in the ways of the old as true to itself as it can possible be - some things simply cannot stay the same. However, change is not doomed to be less than the former, but shaped and moulded by the path laid down behind it's progress. I am truly sorry that you are finding the NY rave scene less satisfying than you may have 5 or so years ago.  I hope you are able to find peace with a society that looks to it's "Ford, almighty" for reform, social stability, progress.
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#154
5.4.2006, 5:51 pm
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No excuse
There is no excuse for raves to change the way they have. I dont care if times changed that is no reason not to have raves at real venues. Yes the dressing thing you could think what you like. You know what I think. But the venues the lineups the price there is no excuse for that.
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#155
5.4.2006, 11:59 pm
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#156
6.4.2006, 1:34 am
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X-raver ihear what your saying on the issue of parties never being like they were but look at the times raves were at their peak so was E and the quality was much better, you know what i'm talking about official bomb squad certified.the type to have you rolling all nite pure and simple. Also the parties arent at the venues they used to be at because the promoters aren't bringing them there. They're not the same promoters at all theyre catering to a different style of parties. Also dragqueens have been at raves forever no matter where you went there were gay guys i used to know a dragqueen b4 i was old enough to get in id get her/him a 6 pack and id get in. Michael alig didnt start the clubkids he definately brought a crowd to ny and promoted an accepting attitude towards all. Anyway you look at it he's a piece of club history especial for us Tri state people. Although ithink it was his mentor james st james who made the clubkids who they were during the late 80's early90's.
But anyway The kids that go to the scene now are awesome let them have they're fun; candy is cool tons of kids bouncing around lots of good vibes. Yea the music is different, old school shit should def be spun @raves think about it with other types of music you hear old school rap daily same thing with 80's rock poison metallica (prenapster) or whatever the new kids should learn of the songs and dj's before them (cmon anyone remember the first time they heard "one night in NYC" ha)but we must also respect the music in front us today. Speaking of happy hardcore anabolic frolic has some good stuff the happy2bhardcore series is def worth checking out. What type of music are you talking about x-raver. i hear your point and all but if you want some old school parties promote a party consider it an end of semester fiesta and when you have it sign me up ill take the first ticket PLUR to all
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