"hard house" is not house

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because it has no soul.

it sounds like slowed down hardcore

it can be called "bang bang house"

or it can be called "a headache waiting to happen"


agree/disagree?

[sinestro71]

AGREED! 1000% House music draws it's roots from soul, funk, r&b, and a llittle from jazz. "Hard Houose" as it's called has NONE of these traits to it.

[a111z]

it usually shares traits with house such as the beat pattern though, nothing like some funky house or relaxed acid house though

[shitsngiggles]

also agreed. funky and electro is where it's at!

[mikey soulful]

youd be silly to say hard house isn't house.

mark farina plays hard house 80% of the time.

ian pooley and pete hellar play hard house 100% of the time.


i hate hard hard house.

it's all about deep soulful house.

but hard house is yes, house, and i'd rather hear hh than trance or d and b

[Elekid]

I agree but disagree.

(assuming you guys were talking about American Hard House)

Old school Hard House, or Chicago Hard House, had many House elements. It was never meant to have 'soul', but instead simply just party music. No big deal. It wasn't until it evolved to LA Hard House that it lost virutally all its House elements. THAT is when it started to have more Hardcore elements. Then the whole American Hard House hype kinda died in 2001 and fell back below mainstream. It's been picking up more as of late as US Hard House, but depending on who's making it will determine how it sounds. The stuff that Poogie Bear (DJ Poogie), Circle K, and DJ Tronic make resemble the older stuff with a touch of Jumpstyle. The stuff Splatterhouse, H-Rock, DJ Intense, 2H, and Jimmy X make resemble more LA Hard House stuff with a touch of Hardcore.

Now if you guys were taking about UK Hard House, which has closer ties to Trance, that's not my area of expertise.

But I don't see any reason to hate on it just because of what it's called. If you guys don't like it, you guys don't like it. Big deal.

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Originally Posted by mikey soulful

mark farina plays hard house 80% of the time.

hahahahahhahahaha, i've NEVER EVER heard mark farina play anything remotely similiar to hard house

and ian pooley plays deep house.. maybe your defnition of hard house is different than everyone else's... go to beatport and listen to those two.

[acid b]

Originally Posted by mikey soulful

youd be silly to say hard house isn't house.

mark farina plays hard house 80% of the time.

ian pooley and pete hellar play hard house 100% of the time.

you're mixed up son.

[HouseFreakSD]

"Hard House" can be define in so many ways. Hard House it self branches out to many different styles and forms of what we call House. Yes of course there is a point where hard house reaches that point and looses it's "soul" and becomes too hard (border line) hardcore but it still holds
some sort of element that makes it house.

Also, I think some people are confusing Booty House with Hard House or Ghetto House

[Elekid]

um, Ghetto House = Booty House?

At least that's how it's considered here in Chicago.

[Tych0]

Originally Posted by mikey soulful

mark farina plays hard house 80% of the time.

Everything I've ever heard from Mark Farina has been chill out lounge house and Acid Jazz, the total opposite of Hard House. You sure you're thinking of the same guy?

[HouseFreakSD]

Originally Posted by Elekid

um, Ghetto House = Booty House?

At least that's how it's considered here in Chicago.

Ghetto house and booty house are almost the same, yes I give you that one. But take booty out of the equation and you're left with just ghetto house. You should know this, you're from Chicago!