have you ever taken the momement to...?.? - Page 2

Klover · #13 29.4.2008, 5:27 am

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Originally Posted by showstoppa

Tension was running high that night in Antranik's room.
I don't know what was up.
I can't find my phone charger, otherwise I was going to call you.
Maybe tomorrow, free minutes at 10 right?

technically at 9...but call me any time after 2 pm.

its alright...like...you know the night was great we got to see everyone...think we still have some learning to do when it comes to this forum and being in person and what makes who upset. as close as we all are...some of us are still new friends and dont know much about one another.

friendship takes time...not just several events.

but i know in myself that those people, especially you, are very close to me now and only have the potential to get closer and more awesome.

foxcandance · #14 29.4.2008, 5:43 am

I have a friend like that too, she's
amazing but we''re just on that level. No shame
it's amazing what you can pick from someone elses mind.
Share thoughts and feelings and have a really
good time with.

LEAK · #15 29.4.2008, 5:45 am

i wish i had a bond like that with joono

roguernaut · #16 29.4.2008, 6:05 am

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Originally Posted by Klover

its alright...like...you know the night was great we got to see everyone...think we still have some learning to do when it comes to this forum and being in person and what makes who upset. as close as we all are...some of us are still new friends and dont know much about one another.

"What makes who upset" is a generally globalized, accepted, understood idea. You inherently understand when something is inappropriate, and when something is in jest. Several times you get fucking carried away and you forget to check yourself. I understand you have a disorder and it IS something that needs to be taken into consideration, but you should make a valid effort to try to cut out your need to put yourself up, everybody else down, and talk hypocritical shit.

Like really, the way you acted at the afterparty was repulsive.

Klover · #17 29.4.2008, 6:24 am

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Originally Posted by *rogue*

"What makes who upset" is a generally globalized, accepted, understood idea. You inherently understand when something is inappropriate, and when something is in jest. Several times you get fucking carried away and you forget to check yourself. I understand you have a disorder and it IS something that needs to be taken into consideration, but you should make a valid effort to try to cut out your need to put yourself up, everybody else down, and talk hypocritical shit.

Like really, the way you acted at the afterparty was repulsive.

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i honestly have no clue what you mean by this...besides me having a lot of energy, being mad i was interrupted a ton, and that yall made fun of me for talking about the same shit you guys were.

you call me out on drug talk, i call you out on drug talk
you speaketh the drama, i speaketh the drama
i get riled up, the tofu gets riled up

what did i honestly do at their house that was so awful?
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and i dont have a *disorder*
thats a whole other topic we can discuss another time.
like i said rogue, and as youve stated before....we dont really *know* each other that much yet.

think of the times ive seen/hung out with you?

not very normal situations.
you dont fuckin know what went on in the first 18 years of my life huh?
or even a lot thats gone on in the past months before TP.

i have my reasons for being who i am.
screw you if you dont accept me.
I wont change through ritalin or any drugs...because i dont want to change.
i love the way i am and have many friends who love me for it as well.
I honestly ONLY have these sort of issues on these boards and recently in person with socal ravers.
so lets go back to exploring one another instead of already jumping to these insane conclusions.

we all should just go back to having fun...stop analyzing one another....and just [IMG]http://***********/forum/style_emoticons/default/steph.gif[/IMG]

roguernaut · #18 29.4.2008, 6:38 am

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Originally Posted by Klover

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i honestly have no clue what you mean by this...besides me having a lot of energy, being mad i was interrupted a ton, and that yall made fun of me for talking about the same shit you guys were.

you call me out on drug talk, i call you out on drug talk
you speaketh the drama, i speaketh the drama
i get riled up, the tofu gets riled up

what did i honestly do at their house that was so awful?
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and i dont have a *disorder*
thats a whole other topic we can discuss another time.
like i said rogue, and as youve stated before....we dont really *know* each other that much yet.

think of the times ive seen/hung out with you?

not very normal situations.
you dont fuckin know what went on in the first 18 years of my life huh?
or even a lot thats gone on in the past months before TP.

i have my reasons for being who i am.
screw you if you dont accept me.
I wont change through ritalin or any drugs...because i dont want to change.
i love the way i am and have many friends who love me for it as well.
I honestly ONLY have these sort of issues on these boards and recently in person with socal ravers.
so lets go back to exploring one another instead of already jumping to these insane conclusions.

we all should just go back to having fun...stop analyzing one another....and just [IMG]http://***********/forum/style_emoticons/default/steph.gif[/IMG]

No, I don't know you, and you don't know me either. So you need to stop pretending like we're best of friends everytime we hang out. Also, you bitch me out about my k, when you blatantly flaunt your 'super cool dealing connex' in our faces all the time. you said you were kidding after, only after you saw how pissed i got. you bitch about my sexuality, almost implying i'm a whore. you start shit with naomi and robin. you start shit with alex. im over it. whatever. you are who you are. and it might just be you act different when you're stoned. but whatever.

im just saying maybe if you CONSTANTLY claim to be SO PLURRY ALL THE TIME, you should try being the part

Klover · #19 29.4.2008, 6:48 am

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Originally Posted by *rogue*

No, I don't know you, and you don't know me either. So you need to stop pretending like we're best of friends everytime we hang out. Also, you bitch me out about my k, when you blatantly flaunt your 'super cool dealing connex' in our faces all the time. you said you were kidding after, only after you saw how pissed i got. you bitch about my sexuality, almost implying i'm a whore. you start shit with naomi and robin. you start shit with alex. im over it. whatever. you are who you are. and it might just be you act different when you're stoned. but whatever.

im just saying maybe if you CONSTANTLY claim to be SO PLURRY ALL THE TIME, you should try being the part

i made the comments about k BECAUSE you guys kept sayin all i do is talk drugs.
the sexuality thing ill reply to tomorrow
starting shit with naomi and robin? this morning on RL was a misunderstanding and confusion over sarcasm. what shit did i start in person?
and you dont know what other conversations i have with naomi...if she has problems with me shell take them up with me.

rowdy? hahaha. are you serious? him and i are chill i was just playing. he knows it. we were talking today. lol thats just funny you brought my jokes towards him as repulsive.

none of the shit you mentioned i see as *repulsive* except the sexuality, but like i said, ill respond to that tomorrow.

cause people are equally if not more repulsive towards me CONSTANTLY regarding MY sexuality and NONE of you give a shit about how i feel.

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Naomi · #20 29.4.2008, 7:34 am

What Jess is referring to is how you were snapping at everyone.
You even snapped at me, out of NOWHERE, and I didn't even interrupt you.
That's when I was like "wtf" and left. I'm not about to start a huge argument at a party, it wasn't worth it. I was tired of you and Tofu going back and forth and me being in the middle listening to both sides. You guys both just want to talk without listening to each other and Tofu started instigating after a certain point.

And this whole "all you talk about is drugs and ravelinks" applies to any ravelinks gathering. Remember when we were talking about taking care of skin and Juno was like "Okay back to drugs and ravelinks guys"

We laugh about it because it's funny...but sometimes we (collectively as ravers/ravelinkers) take it a little too far with all this drug shit. So then just leave the room, that was always an option to get out of the situation. And I did this several times. Between you and Tofu fighting, the tension in the air, you were just angry and pissed that people weren't listening to you, then crew bullshit, I left the room and I don't know why you never left the room if you didn't like the conversation.I DON'T like bad vibes, I DON'T like raised voices, and people snapping at me. The only reasons I would come back to see if things were safe to come back in or to be with Tofu for a bit.

And you went on this whole thing about how I conceited I am, and that was the only time I cut you off and said "No, the only time I ever went off was when I was accused of being jealous of Rogue and I said I don't get jealous, I'm a fucking Leo." I wasn't even successful because you kept going on trying to bring into the room about MY ego and making it sound like I was saying "I'm showstoppa bitch". I don't get jealous. There is no other person I would rather be than me, and if that's being a conceited bitch, then so be it. I like who I am and I am my biggest fan, as everyone should always be their own best friend and biggest fan.
However, you completely took it out of context and made it sound like I'm some arrogant mother fucker, which I'm not.
And that's what Tofu was referring to about talking shit to me at the after party.

And what Jess is saying is that there is a line that can be crossed. I didn't get upset when everyone was like "Naomi you're jaded" and I was so confused because I don't think I'm jaded AT ALL, but I did get upset when you were making me look really bad and then decided to snap at me when I was actually engaging in coversation with you.

You were stoned as fuck, there was no point in confronting you about it at the time. You were snapping at Jess, too, that night, and if we don't learn each other's boundaries, some one's going to get hurt. That's why she's saying to don't even go there if you don't know. I'm more sensitive when it comes to my friends saying things about me, and I can't speak for Rogue, but being attacked in front of friends is hurtful. Being snapped at by a friend out of no where is than getting snapped at by a stranger. Especially the way you were so casually insulting us. Yet you got offended if anyone said anything to you. There is a difference between talking shit to some one privately, and embarrassing them in public. Jess and I felt like you did that to us and that was uncalled. We're your FRIENDS, Klover. I confide to you things about my life and then you want to put them out there. It wasn't fair, at all... and made me not want to ever tell you anything ever again. I felt betrayed. It seems like you weren't thinking before you spoke, and you let the anger of feeling like people not listening to you take over. Not everyone is going to shut up and listen to you the whole time at a party. There were many more people than you there. And you do realize you cut me off a few times? If some one cuts you off, it usually means they are interested, so don't try and keep talking about it, it's going to annoy people and aggravate you. Just drop it.

And the whole Rowdy thing....you were giving him shit on RL and apparently in person, too, about being a Fresh promotor. Didn't YOU want to promote and help out Fresh REALLY badly a couple weeks ago? You DON'T know how Fresh is run, you have never been to any of their meetings. You don't know Tim or Clay or Tofu on a professional/business/ even personal level. They encourage ideas from their promotors and WANT to listen to them...but talking about promotion on a crowded patio is different from an organized meeting. Tofu invited you to come to any of the Fresh meetings when you were in town (and I know because I relayed that message).

And just because you're idea was shot down, doesn't make THEM an asshole. It was an implausible idea. You get easily offended when some one doesn't accept or agree with something you propose and I think that's what started the ball rolling on Saturday. I know why you were upset, and Tofu was already in a shitty mood once we got to Uprise. Bad timing. I just don't understand why you couldn't just leave if he was upsetting you so much instead of letting him feed your rant. And really, if some one was snapping at your girlfriend, would you really just sit around and act all happy? I don't think so.

Again, I can't speak FOR Rogue, but I do have something to say about this disorder business. It's that once you start ranting and raving about something, you didn't stop even when it was clear that no one was trying to get into an intense convo. THere are times for intense conversations (like us on the phone). But at an afterparty? Not so much. I'm going to take a AA reference "take the cotton balls out of your ears and stick them in your mouth". Like instead of just jumping in a room and go off ranting and raving, feel the vibe, sometime going off talking with that much intensity is not what people want. Take a bit of time to think before you say something. Is it really relevant to the conversation? Is it an appropriate time and place to talk about it? Are people in a sarcastic mood or is everyone super plurry? Don't ruin the vibe. Just because you are in a bad mood doesn't give you the right to put other people down, and that's what it felt like.

I think that's what set people off, which set you off because you felt like no one was listening, and then it was just a ball that kept rolling and rolling.

And you know what, you're a drug...okay okay you just make friends, people are going to give you shit for it.
You don't hear people accusing me of "all you do is talk about drugs" because... really, I don't for the most part. You talk about drugs, you're going to get teased about it, take the heat. We make fun of how Rowdy is when he's stoned, you guys wanted to bribe Tofu with Acid to get me into Fresh, and there are people we associate with doing too much ecstasy, being ketamine fiends, and coke heads.
If you don't want to get teased about talking about drugs, then don't AT ALL.
It's not just YOU who is getting shit for "drugs ravelinks drugs ravelinks drugs ravelinks" and that's an inside JOKE. I am fully guilty of the "ravelinks" part, however, and I will totally admit it. I love forums.

Have I said enough? Did I cover everything? Is everything clear now? Everyone had their reasons for being a dick/being a bitch/being hurt/feeling upset and so on and so on. Okay? We're just saying you did cross some lines Klover and you were just in the worst mood ever and it totally made me feel like shit just being in the same room as you. I've offered constructive criticism in a way that I hope you feel does not attack you.

The posts that were made on ravelinks attacking Fresh, Tofu, and even me are a whooolllee nother story and we have cleared that up, yes? I just wanted to reference to Saturday night.

ROK_soldier · #21 29.4.2008, 7:35 am

Are you gay? If you're not, why aren't you tapping that ass??

I'm really curious

BigHugss · #22 29.4.2008, 2:39 pm

haha whats up with everyone!!!! damn well first off no i am not GAY not that i have a problem with it its just i dont swing that way.......just because i am best friends with someone of the oppisite sex doesnt mean i have to be fucking her as well and or want to fuck her.......sorry about you guys but i can be friends with a beautiful girl without sex crossin my mind.......it is what it is we have an awesome relationship and niether her or I have any problems with it.....

and i just got out of a 3 year relationship with my last girlfriend....she had my heart and she destroyed it in many differant ways so im not lookin for a girl, im not just lookin for a fuck, im looking for people that i can build a strong relationship and hopefully impact there life or mine, this thread was about friends and what they mean to you and it turned into why arnt you fuckin this bitch? see past your dicks and maybe ull understand what im talkin about...

as for rogue, klover and whos ever elses drama that was brought to this thread im really sorry for whatever happened im not going to put my 2 cents is cuz i really dont kno any of you at all but please take your drama outta here like i said before this thread was for what friends really mean to you and you guys are goin at it like crazy....so calm down dont talk for a couple days or something and call eachother and figure things out like human beings.....concider both sides of your stories and just talk but this thread is not the place to do it. Yall pretty much killed it.

i was lookin forward to wakin up turnin on the comp screen and seeing what kinda cool things everyone on here had said but it all turned into the exact oppisite.

Joono · #23 29.4.2008, 2:49 pm

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Originally Posted by BigHugss

haha whats up with everyone!!!! damn well first off no i am not GAY not that i have a problem with it its just i dont swing that way.......just because i am best friends with someone of the oppisite sex doesnt mean i have to be fucking her as well and or want to fuck her.......sorry about you guys but i can be friends with a beautiful girl without sex crossin my mind.......it is what it is we have an awesome relationship and niether her or I have any problems with it.....

and i just got out of a 3 year relationship with my last girlfriend....she had my heart and she destroyed it in many differant ways so im not lookin for a girl, im not just lookin for a fuck, im looking for people that i can build a strong relationship and hopefully impact there life or mine, this thread was about friends and what they mean to you and it turned into why arnt you fuckin this bitch? see past your dicks and maybe ull understand what im talkin about...

as for rogue, klover and whos ever elses drama that was brought to this thread im really sorry for whatever happened im not going to put my 2 cents is cuz i really dont kno any of you at all but please take your drama outta here like i said before this thread was for what friends really mean to you and you guys are goin at it like crazy....so calm down dont talk for a couple days or something and call eachother and figure things out like human beings.....concider both sides of your stories and just talk but this thread is not the place to do it. Yall pretty much killed it.

i was lookin forward to wakin up turnin on the comp screen and seeing what kinda cool things everyone on here had said but it all turned into the exact oppisite.

I'd still put it in her butt, seeing as how you never will.