are we really promoting this in our scene??????????????? wtf?????????????

[roguernaut]

I'm not exactly how to put into words my opinion on this whole deal, so I'll just kind of type along as my brain randomly blurts out its ideas.


This might be the most cliché of arguements, but in the classical roman and greek times, humans were comfortable with their sexuality and nakedness. Sex wasn't as taboo as it is in today's society. I mean, alright, maybe the pictures themselves are taking it a bit far, but is it controversial of me to think that maybe a girl showing off her physique isn't as bad as everyone makes it out to be?

Of course there are differences if you apply their philosophy to today's modern world. We've been introduced to STD's. We have immature girls (not just age-wise) with not much life experience flauting their sexuality for the wrong reasons (maybe if i'm sexy they will like me!). We have cases of unconsensual rape.

But I do believe clothes and ban on sexuality is society's influence on us. Of course that's not really our fault to bend to it, since it's all we've been accustomed to since birth. But sex feels good. Touch feels good. The word "slut" is overused and thrown about too easily.

You shouldn't be blackmarked a slut for provocative dancing, provocative touching, provocative dressing, but it's the way we've come to understand it and it's probably the way it'll stay.

Ehhhhh that being said, sexuality is part of human nature and it will always prevail. It's just our attitudes about it that we can adjust. Hopefully one day we will become more comfortable with it, and we will be able to enjoy casual sex with friends (if the necessary precautions are taken) and actually ENJOY our sexuality that we have been so blessed with.

I believe the taboo on sexuality stems from our Puritan and Christian grounding. I hate religious constrictions.

[bshieh]

Originally Posted by *rogue*

Ehhhhh that being said, sexuality is part of human nature and it will always prevail. It's just our attitudes about it that we can adjust. Hopefully one day we will become more comfortable with it, and we will be able to enjoy casual sex with friends (if the necessary precautions are taken) and actually ENJOY our sexuality that we have been so blessed with.

i heard that in Germany the current 'slang' for girlfriend (and maybe boyfriend too), means "partner for now"

and i think casual sex with friends is becoming more and more common.

or maybe its just cause i'm getting older.

[kfreak]

Originally Posted by *rogue*

I'm not exactly how to put into words my opinion on this whole deal, so I'll just kind of type along as my brain randomly blurts out its ideas.


This might be the most cliché of arguements, but in the classical roman and greek times, humans were comfortable with their sexuality and nakedness. Sex wasn't as taboo as it is in today's society. I mean, alright, maybe the pictures themselves are taking it a bit far, but is it controversial of me to think that maybe a girl showing off her physique isn't as bad as everyone makes it out to be?

Of course there are differences if you apply their philosophy to today's modern world. We've been introduced to STD's. We have immature girls (not just age-wise) with not much life experience flauting their sexuality for the wrong reasons (maybe if i'm sexy they will like me!). We have cases of unconsensual rape.

But I do believe clothes and ban on sexuality is society's influence on us. Of course that's not really our fault to bend to it, since it's all we've been accustomed to since birth. But sex feels good. Touch feels good. The word "slut" is overused and thrown about too easily.

You shouldn't be blackmarked a slut for provocative dancing, provocative touching, provocative dressing, but it's the way we've come to understand it and it's probably the way it'll stay.

Ehhhhh that being said, sexuality is part of human nature and it will always prevail. It's just our attitudes about it that we can adjust. Hopefully one day we will become more comfortable with it, and we will be able to enjoy casual sex with friends (if the necessary precautions are taken) and actually ENJOY our sexuality that we have been so blessed with.

I believe the taboo on sexuality stems from our Puritan and Christian grounding. I hate religious constrictions.

i have no issue with human sexuality. i honestly think that the human form is a beautiful thing. what i have issue with is the fact that most of these girls are underage. we do need to protect our children from the sick twisted people out there who will take advantage of them. if pictures like these are seen by the wrong people then there is a huge chance that something could happen at a party. this would help to ruin something that i truly love and believe in. i dont want that to happen to our scene.

[miss_mochi]

Originally Posted by kfreak

i have no issue with human sexuality. i honestly think that the human form is a beautiful thing. what i have issue with is the fact that most of these girls are underage. we do need to protect our children from the sick twisted people out there who will take advantage of them. if pictures like these are seen by the wrong people then there is a huge chance that something could happen at a party. this would help to ruin something that i truly love and believe in. i dont want that to happen to our scene.

very good point

[Antranik]

Rogue I support your commentary, it is well said even if it is random blurts, haha. I hope one day the taboo's about sex in the USA will lessen but the process seems extremely slow. In the meantime, I'm happy at least the rest of the world isn't like this. People say the USA is a free country, and of course it is, but most don't realize that many european countries are much more open and accepting of sex and sexuality. This makes for a much healthier society as well IMO.

[alex]

Originally Posted by kfreak

i have no issue with human sexuality. i honestly think that the human form is a beautiful thing. what i have issue with is the fact that most of these girls are underage. we do need to protect our children from the sick twisted people out there who will take advantage of them. if pictures like these are seen by the wrong people then there is a huge chance that something could happen at a party. this would help to ruin something that i truly love and believe in. i dont want that to happen to our scene.

very good point ill fucking bring a nightstick and beat down all the fucking sickos @ partys myself if i have to !!!!!

[roguernaut]

Originally Posted by kfreak

i have no issue with human sexuality. i honestly think that the human form is a beautiful thing. what i have issue with is the fact that most of these girls are underage. we do need to protect our children from the sick twisted people out there who will take advantage of them. if pictures like these are seen by the wrong people then there is a huge chance that something could happen at a party. this would help to ruin something that i truly love and believe in. i dont want that to happen to our scene.

you know those girls in the original picture aren't underaged. the other girls i can't account for, but doesn't matter. I mean, what's really the difference between 16 and 18? Life experience? Maturity? Not really. I don't know, I just think... I don't know.

Sluttiness is a hard subject to discuss unbiased without completely re-vamping all of society's influences on our opinions.

[djsephy]

Originally Posted by kfreak

. if pictures like these are seen by the wrong people then there is a huge chance that something could happen at a party. th

The wrong person could be a horny lonly 16 year old, or the wrong person whos 55?

Sides' I know the idea of something happening is horrible, but lets try to remember, 9/10 times you see raver skanks they're with a group.

Anyway, imo.
If they are going to dress that way, and put forward motions, moves, and words to allure someone to them that way.
And getting fucked up ontop of that, they're only getting what they asked for.

./end_noheart

[ahhmeagan]

baaarff. the end.

[JonnyMars]

Originally Posted by *rogue*

I'm not exactly how to put into words my opinion on this whole deal, so I'll just kind of type along as my brain randomly blurts out its ideas.


This might be the most cliché of arguements, but in the classical roman and greek times, humans were comfortable with their sexuality and nakedness. Sex wasn't as taboo as it is in today's society. I mean, alright, maybe the pictures themselves are taking it a bit far, but is it controversial of me to think that maybe a girl showing off her physique isn't as bad as everyone makes it out to be?

Of course there are differences if you apply their philosophy to today's modern world. We've been introduced to STD's. We have immature girls (not just age-wise) with not much life experience flauting their sexuality for the wrong reasons (maybe if i'm sexy they will like me!). We have cases of unconsensual rape.

But I do believe clothes and ban on sexuality is society's influence on us. Of course that's not really our fault to bend to it, since it's all we've been accustomed to since birth. But sex feels good. Touch feels good. The word "slut" is overused and thrown about too easily.

You shouldn't be blackmarked a slut for provocative dancing, provocative touching, provocative dressing, but it's the way we've come to understand it and it's probably the way it'll stay.

Ehhhhh that being said, sexuality is part of human nature and it will always prevail. It's just our attitudes about it that we can adjust. Hopefully one day we will become more comfortable with it, and we will be able to enjoy casual sex with friends (if the necessary precautions are taken) and actually ENJOY our sexuality that we have been so blessed with.

I believe the taboo on sexuality stems from our Puritan and Christian grounding. I hate religious constrictions.

Very well said.
I do have to agree with you.
Like I said, 18 and up get your freak on.


And to piggyback on that last note I always seen it like this when it comes to sex and whatnots.

If God said "Let there be light". And "poof" there is this powerful thing called THE SUN.
Then how equally powerful was it when he said " Be fruitful and Multiply".
This would explain what men can't, when it come to those "Urges".
And possibly why females sometimes feel the need to have children.
Just plugin thought together----

[roguernaut]

Originally Posted by JonnyMars

If God said "Let there be light". And "poof" there is this powerful thing called THE SUN.
Then how equally powerful was it when he said " Be fruitful and Multiply".
This would explain what men can't, when it come to those "Urges".
And possibly why females sometimes feel the need to have children.
Just plugin thought together----

Sorry but I didn't grasp what point you were trying to make? >_<

[YoRich]

Originally Posted by kfreak

is this what we really want our scene to be? we need to go back to the basics, get this back to normal. why do we have people taking these kinds of pictures, and showing people that this is how we are?

you know i find it really funny that you're talking about girls doing shit like this, and then in your sig, you have "Gangbang for life" ironic