are we overlooking a viable energy source?

[moogle]

Originally Posted by BobbyB_III

i think I was high when I posted this... DAMN!!!

bobby you owe me a frog boss, ugh I miss it so.

[DJ King]

Originally Posted by Vision

Doctor Evil go back to drinking your energy drinks, and let the big boys handle this.


-V

LMFAO vision you hit it dead on the nail

[*fly*MiNNiE]

*WOOOOT! im with visine on this one. some ppl realy know how to ruin it for others. moogle definitly backed that, by stating mdma was used during therapy treatment not long ago. had not it been sold and linked to date rape, it wouldnt have such a bad rep- prolly be able to get it prescribe like the good ol' ganja! but i cant deny, doc. e made a good arguement as well. hell, its true! i wanna legalize it too! main reason was to blaze, but if you tell me its gonna help wit an energy crisis, heal glaucoma, and cure cancer...more the reason for me to hold up a sign outside the white house! well, i cant argue for any side- really, theres always gonna be alternative reasoning and different perspectives. in any case...
*.::+:juss blaze:+::.*
*now im off to do so*

[Doctor E.vil]

Originally Posted by vernniegrl

blah blah blah, its ppl who don't know how to slow down and do things in moderation that fuc* it up for the rest of the casual users. Gosh, put the pipe down already! mary Jane is not addicting but some of u sure make it seem that way. thats giving it a bad name!

Ha Ha Ha. For reals yo. I mean to be honest tho, anything can be addicting. I mean I don't like go and drink energy drinks all the time. I use it to get going. I'm like beat from work and I want to relax, but I also want to chill, and then eventually dance, so I drink some E drinks and like I got this rush of energy and I get this roll feeling (only way to describe it really). I have trouble sleeping well most of the time and like work hard during the week, so on the weekends I do want to see my friends and all, so maybe I'll go to a party right? So I have to drink Energy drinks else I'll probably fall asleep around 2am-ish. I've gone to parties without any energy drinks and I'm just worn out from the week, so I'll sit and chill and the beat is going and I wanna dance, but if I don't have the energy I always end up sleeping in the corner for a bit. If you did what I do...trust me, you wouldn't even want to go to a party, you'd be too tired. So I get a little choosey about my parties that I go to.


I used to smoke pot as like an occasional thing, like after work with friends if we got together, if we didn't no big deal, and then it started out as just a joint between friends. I mean honestly, I was addicted to the feeling. I don't think I got addicted to pot itself. At least not physically anyways. I would get like sick and cough and stuff, so I'd stop smoking pot for a week and then get back to it. I could stop for periods of time when I needed to, but honestly I didn't want to. I loved the feeling of being stoned, but when it came to business I could function ok. Just when I got into other drugs did I go overboard and became an addict for sure. I mean if you people can moderate your drug use, hell, go for it. I've always said that, but if you end up with a drug problem, don't go crying to me. I mean I can help, but don't cry about it. Just face up to it and get help. Trust me, I love all you guys, sometimes you might annoy me, but hey that's life. I annoy you too. I don't wish anybody to become a drug addict. It's not easy being me.

I totally want pot legalized for other reasons than smoking it. It's just that if you get down to it, most people aren't really on legalization for that reason. You have to admit that.

[Pj Iz Rollin']

like i said once before i like pot if it can be used for other reasons then more power. now i havent smoked for a day who wants to blaze me out haha j/k i got plenty. (shout out to coaster thanx fool haha)

[smoketrails]

truthfully i think its bullshit that any drug is illegal... i work.. i pay taxes.. as long as MY use is not negitivly effecting the community it should be legal... it should be illegal if i was robing houses to get high.... drinking/smoking/shooting up in public... that isant ok... but doing it in your own house?... or at parties with friends (NOT IN CLUBS) that should be fine... what u do in your own home is your own fucking business if ur not hurting anyone/thing (other then yourself... cuz the UR HURTING YOURSELF! argument is bound to come up with one of you smart asses)

i dont think buying off street dealers should be legal... it should be controled and taxed... just like alcohol and cigs... there should be standard grades of potentcy and when its cut it should be cut with things that are not active cuts... and not bad for you...

altho the major fear of legalizing everything would come from the "kid in a candy store" syndrom that would happen in america... u tell someone the ycant have somthing forever... and then give it to them? the possibility of losing an ENTIRE generation to drugs is there... but i still believe if regulated properly it would work out

[Pj Iz Rollin']

Originally Posted by smoketrails

truthfully i think its bullshit that any drug is illegal... i work.. i pay taxes.. as long as MY use is not negitivly effecting the community it should be legal... it should be illegal if i was robing houses to get high.... drinking/smoking/shooting up in public... that isant ok... but doing it in your own house?... or at parties with friends (NOT IN CLUBS) that should be fine... what u do in your own home is your own fucking business if ur not hurting anyone/thing (other then yourself... cuz the UR HURTING YOURSELF! argument is bound to come up with one of you smart asses)

haha yea i love the last part ur hilarious smoke what u been up to? ok so yea dont answer that yet i got to get to bed haha. ok talk to you all tomorrow maybe im a real busy guy now haha PLUR!!!!!!

[moogle]

Originally Posted by smoketrails

truthfully i think its bullshit that any drug is illegal... i work.. i pay taxes.. as long as MY use is not negitivly effecting the community it should be legal... it should be illegal if i was robing houses to get high.... drinking/smoking/shooting up in public... that isant ok... but doing it in your own house?... or at parties with friends (NOT IN CLUBS) that should be fine... what u do in your own home is your own fucking business if ur not hurting anyone/thing (other then yourself... cuz the UR HURTING YOURSELF! argument is bound to come up with one of you smart asses)

i dont think buying off street dealers should be legal... it should be controled and taxed... just like alcohol and cigs... there should be standard grades of potentcy and when its cut it should be cut with things that are not active cuts... and not bad for you...

altho the major fear of legalizing everything would come from the "kid in a candy store" syndrom that would happen in america... u tell someone the ycant have somthing forever... and then give it to them? the possibility of losing an ENTIRE generation to drugs is there... but i still believe if regulated properly it would work out

Main focus of this thread was that our government is lieing about our lack of resources. Its not about legalizing the damn thing, its using its use for good. That arguement on legalizing pot can be had on another post, but in the case that I was stating in the beginning is that we aren't lacking in resources for energy. When marijuana can be made to methanol, and w/a few other resources = gasoline can be had. Our retarded President shut down our main oil pipeline in Alaska, he concluded that w/the shortages in oil resources our gas prices is going to increase. Its now @ 100 a barrel, when 2 weeks ago it was $80.

All drugs effect the body. Legal or not, if it changes the way you think, the way you are, if it changes you mentally for good, than it should be illegal. Like for example tweak. It fucks you mentally hardcore, some even lose their house, family, and life, and w/that it does effect the community regardless if its done in their private homes. There is no such moderation in tweak bcz once you hit ur first hit, your hooked, and It's that bad! But w/Ganja, there should be no reason why it should be ban, as alcohol and cigs does more damage to the body than ganja does, and yet it sells legaly. I don't want to go off-topic so I'll stick w/that.

3. as for some drugs being legal, taxed, and controlled that I do agree. If its setup that way, there be less harm as there will be pure molly's or g13. We wouldn't have to worry if our shit is laced or filled w/some poison that's going to affect us alot more than it already can.

[smoketrails]

Originally Posted by moogle

All drugs effect the body. Legal or not, if it changes the way you think, the way you are, if it changes you mentally for good, than it should be illegal. Like for example tweak. It fucks you mentally hardcore, some even lose their house, family, and life, and w/that it does effect the community regardless if its done in their private homes. There is no such moderation in tweak bcz once you hit ur first hit, your hooked, and It's that bad! But w/Ganja, there should be no reason why it should be ban, as alcohol and cigs does more damage to the body than ganja does, and yet it sells legaly. I don't want to go off-topic so I'll stick w/that.

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any drug that changes the way u think... well then ALL painkillers should be banned... all anti depressants... they all change the way you feel... HELL im sure alot of cronic pain patients love life now because they can actually do things... and arnt bed ridden all day... but we should ban the drug because it changes their lifestyle right?

tweak does not hook you in one hit... i know people that recreationally smoke/shoot tweak... they do it rarely (maybe once or twice every couple of months) and lead completely normal lives... they just do it when they want a break from everything... its their DoC... but ooo they are changed for life right?... this post made u look extremely closed minded bro

i know people who smoke so much damn pot they will do anything to score an 8th... their lives are forever changed by pot... so it should stay illegal!... you cant say everyone is going to act the same when doing drugs... cuz noone does...

[moogle]

Originally Posted by smoketrails

any drug that changes the way u think... well then ALL painkillers should be banned... all anti depressants... they all change the way you feel... HELL im sure alot of cronic pain patients love life now because they can actually do things... and arnt bed ridden all day... but we should ban the drug because it changes their lifestyle right?

tweak does not hook you in one hit... i know people that recreationally smoke/shoot tweak... they do it rarely (maybe once or twice every couple of months) and lead completely normal lives... they just do it when they want a break from everything... its their DoC... but ooo they are changed for life right?... this post made u look extremely closed minded bro

i know people who smoke so much damn pot they will do anything to score an 8th... their lives are forever changed by pot... so it should stay illegal!... you cant say everyone is going to act the same when doing drugs... cuz noone does...

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I never meant drugs that make you feel, pain killers does induce euphoria, but you still the same person after the drug. I mean the drugs that changes your cognitive ways, your being, yourself.

LOL w/the tweak arguement. So your saying that nothing have changed w/those peepz of yours that do tweak. Your telling me they're still the same person they were before they did tweak. There are rare occurence, but w/the ratio of peepz losing they're life and having them are slim to none. Yah I am EXTREMELY CLOSED MINDED, as you based that on one post So by having a discussion I am now a closed minded person... and another

You are right there are peepz that lost their lives to marijuana, but where do u see that scenario, and is it prevailent enought that the government have to worry about it. Shoot they even told the cops in West Hollywood to not arrest peepz that have Marijuana. If Marijuana is effecting the social system nation wide than they're going to worry about it, as tweak is doing that to our nation right now.

[smoketrails]

Originally Posted by moogle

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I never meant drugs that make you feel, pain killers does induce euphoria, but you still the same person after the drug. I mean the drugs that changes your cognitive ways, your being, yourself.

LOL w/the tweak arguement. So your saying that nothing have changed w/those peepz of yours that do tweak. Your telling me they're still the same person they were before they did tweak. There are rare occurence, but w/the ratio of peepz losing they're life and having them are slim to none. Yah I am EXTREMELY CLOSED MINDED, as you based that on one post So by having a discussion I am now a closed minded person... and another

You are right there are peepz that lost their lives to marijuana, but where do u see that scenario, and is it prevailent enought that the government have to worry about it. Shoot they even told the cops in West Hollywood to not arrest peepz that have Marijuana. If Marijuana is effecting the social system nation wide than they're going to worry about it, as tweak is doing that to our nation right now.

i didnt say u where closed minded... i said this post made u look closed minded... because your saying well look!! it happens to some people!! so it happens to everyone!! also it is closed minded to make huge generalazations... which is what you did...

im also not premoting meth use... but there are some people who can do it recreationally and not get all tweaker status on us.... yes... they are exactly the same people they where before... infact id trust one of them with anything...

it is possible to moderately use any drug... u just have to have self control...

[lazer]