5htp? help if you would - Page 2

Psilo · #13 25.9.2008, 4:10 am

i be that cold crest creepa.... stompin and rompin....

<--- R --->
<--- I --->
<--- P --->

to a prophet.

stilll not over it.

JGDogg12 · #14 25.9.2008, 4:22 am

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please watch that.

MasterDose · #15 25.9.2008, 4:22 am

THIZZZ OR DIE NIGGAZ

(IM WHITE)

lol

oh ya and only MDA rolls......any others r just like mdma and thas just like kind of lame....

prado-G · #16 25.9.2008, 12:14 pm

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Originally Posted by solo

it doesnt do shit for your roll.
its only placebo.
people who "load up on 5htp" to roll harder are idiots who know anything about the brain.

dont become one of those idiots.

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Originally Posted by Psilo

Haha "Fizzing".. loooool...

5-HTP is a direct precursor to serotonin and can boost it's quantity and re-uptake cycle in the brain. Taking 5-HTP supplements is absolutely proven to be helpful in many ways, and one of those ways does happen to be a general increase in the ability of mdma to become enhanced on the user's specific receptors.

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The only thing I disagree with is taking 5-HTP the same day as you roll. Don't do it.
Take 100 mg for 5 days or more preceding the day you roll, not counting the exact day.

It's common sense that if there is more Serotonin to drain, then more Serotonin will drain.

Statements like that can't really be broken into more simple terms, science or not. 5-HTP is no raver myth.

Knowledge is power

noobasaurus · #17 25.9.2008, 12:43 pm

i choose psilos post i trust him.

smokeyy · #18 25.9.2008, 1:20 pm

5htp does as much as you will accept 5htp does. nothing more or less. ive used it quite a few times in the past, some of which maybe i think made it better, or some of which may of done nothing at all. the thing about it is, if you need 5htp, if your not rolling enough..or you cant handle the "comedown" you prolly shouldnt be rollin.

Psilo · #19 25.9.2008, 3:26 pm

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Originally Posted by smokeyy

5htp does as much as you will accept 5htp does. nothing more or less. ive used it quite a few times in the past, some of which maybe i think made it better, or some of which may of done nothing at all. the thing about it is, if you need 5htp, if your not rolling enough..or you cant handle the "comedown" you prolly shouldnt be rollin.

I agree with this somewhat, in terms of how hard your roll hits you.. BUT, there's still no reason 'not' to take it, because it also puts up defensive measures around your brain that slightly limits the damage done by MDMA. So to be honest, in a perfect rave world, everyone WOULD be taking 5-HTP no matter who they are.

I eat 100 mg every day and I rarely even do ecstasy anymore. It's a daily supplement for me.

aknight · #20 25.9.2008, 3:31 pm

thanks for the last couple posts you guys actually answered my question instead of talk about the fact that i used fizz and thizz to describe rolling.

solo · #21 25.9.2008, 4:27 pm

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Originally Posted by Psilo

Taking 5-HTP supplements is absolutely proven to be helpful in many ways, and one of those ways does happen to be a general increase in the ability of mdma to become enhanced on the user's specific receptors.

where did you read this from?
whats the name of the article and/or journal name, volume, page no?

Psilo · #22 25.9.2008, 4:42 pm

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Originally Posted by solo

where did you read this from?
whats the name of the article and/or journal name, volume, page no?

Ive been a moderator on bluelight.ru for 5 years and we have multiple chemists and pharmacologists working for us and discussing these kind of questions all day, especially generalized ones that the public should know.

I could probably go through PubMed (i have a membership to read full articles, not extracts) and paste a shitload of various info's about the way 5-HTP works on different parts of the body.

But instead ill just refer to the Bluelight Advanced Discussion board, where people a million trillion times smarter than I ever could be are talking about this kind of thing all day,
(p.s. if not known, bluelight is where the american government comes first to get their info before proceeding with their own methods)

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I won't disagree that there are still a group of people who think 5-HTP is placebo and who claim that it hasn't been fully proven, but if you look over the chemical charts for testing in humans, the numbers seem to point to the fact that it does control MDMA flood level in some way, and that way generally is towards the positive side.

Even if it did happen to be placebo in humans - 5-HTP is still good for you in many, many other ways and theres no reason not to take it. Thats kinda what it comes down to for me in my own use.

solo · #23 25.9.2008, 4:55 pm

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Originally Posted by Psilo

Ive been a moderator on bluelight.ru for 5 years and we have multiple chemists and pharmacologists working for us and discussing these kind of questions all day, especially generalized ones that the public should know.

I could probably go through PubMed (i have a membership to read full articles, not extracts) and paste a shitload of various info's about the way 5-HTP works on different parts of the body.

But instead ill just refer to the Bluelight Advanced Discussion board, where people a million trillion times smarter than I ever could be are talking about this kind of thing all day,
(p.s. if not known, bluelight is where the american government comes first to get their info before proceeding with their own methods)

[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]

[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]

[Only registered and activated users can see links. ] (entire thread is off the charts with information)

[Only registered and activated users can see links. ] (Concise.. needs work).

I won't disagree that there are still a group of people who think 5-HTP is placebo and who claim that it hasn't been fully proven, but if you look over the chemical charts for testing in humans, the numbers seem to point to the fact that it does control MDMA flood level in some way, and that way generally is towards the positive side.

Even if it did happen to be placebo in humans - 5-HTP is still good for you in many, many other ways and theres no reason not to take it. Thats kinda what it comes down to for me in my own use.

there are no studies to date that involve preloading of 5htp and mdma.
if you dont have data to back up these claims you dont have anything more than speculation. there is no room for "common sense."