Difference betwixt Jungle and DnB?

[eyliusevil]

Jungle is more organic sounding with a lot more sub basslines and surrounds more ragga culture. Dnb is more electronic blah blah blah.

[mdma]

I always thought that Jungle was sort of a derrogitory term, and that most of the artists wanted to get away from that moniker. I thought that is why Drum & Bass is term that is more frequently used now...

[eyliusevil]

Originally Posted by mdma

I always thought that Jungle was sort of a derrogitory term, and that most of the artists wanted to get away from that moniker. I thought that is why Drum & Bass is term that is more frequently used now...

originally it was but then the term just slipped into the main stream. Jungle music originally was just a deragatory term for all black music in england (i think), but it just stuck with what we consider jungle and people became used to it or something. Shit gets confusing.

[XdescendX]

My opinion: Drum & Bass is Jungle with longer darker spine splitting bass lines

[lala boy]

i always thought jungle is the reggae stuff with the mcs and drum n bass was just the more evolved electronic stuff.

i could be wrong.

[~Ows~]

Originally Posted by Bassik

History of Jungle / Drum & Bass:

Breakbeat was an underground music which had originally come in from the USA in the late 1970s. Frankie Bones , at his early DJ-ing stage had created breakbeat irregular music, whereby he had overlapped two same records on turn-table decks at slightly different speeds and slightly delayed. This would create asynchronous beat, which would drive the crowd crazy. His track named "Bones Breaks" was a pioneer if not discovererof breakbeat which has remained strictly underground since. In the late 80s, house scene erupted in UK, especially in London. As house scene had progressed, the ecstasy rave culture had emerged from the youth, suppressing the football hooliganism. House from one side and breakbeat from the other side had created a combination, which later led to production of what was called jungle and what is now called drum & bass.

It was around 1990 , when jungle started emerging from the general dance scene. Kickin'and Shut up & Dance record labels started fusing breakbeat, house, hip-hop, reggae, techno and most importantly dub to produce what they called Jungle. In fact the name originates from one of the experimental clubs in London, called "Jungle" where the first fusion experiments were played. The term "jungle", though, had remained in the underground until 1993.

DJ Hype creates breakbeat feeling by mixing house and hip hop at 45 rpm on Phantasy FM. Later co-produces some of the first jungle tracks under the name The Scientist, with the tracks like "Excorcist" and "The Bee". Telepathy - one of the first hardcore jungle clubs kick starts in November. Mickey Finn creates the track Bionic Man, which uses the same idea as the Excorcist. 1992 was the year when the hardcore music was peaking.

Jungle was often confused with hardcore, which was quite similar at the time, but was directed more towards 4/4 base beat, rather than looped asynchronous rhythm. Jungle had just made its way to a larger audience, while hardcore was a total novice to the dance scene. Both jungle and hardcore were played at the same raves and sometimes the artists didn't even know whether the track they made was jungle or hardcore. Both of the styles were co-existing under one roof and so there was no separate jungle scene.

Johnny Jungle (today known as Pascal) had released a hit called "Johnny" which was a beginning of the new era. Johnny L created "Hurt You So" on XL recordgins, which highlighted the breaks out of the hardcore formula. 4Hero, LTJ Bukem ,Grooverider, DJ Hype and other future jungle producers started heading in the new breaks direction. The true jungle was ahead.

1993 was the end of confusion . Hardcore and the twin brother happy hardcore moved towards a more progressive rhythm, while Jungle remained on the breakbeat side. Though still reminiscent of 1992, artists such as Wax Doctor , headed the darker bassline sounds. At that point, jungle had finally gained its own identity - dedicated club venues such as Roast, Roller Express, Telepathy and Desire start operating on a weekly basis. Andy C comes up with the "Valley Of The Shadows" - the timeless jungle hit. Ed Rush throws the darkcore "Bloodclot Attack" while LTJ Bukem rolls out the ambient "Music". It was, not to understate, Moving Shadow 's year. Artists such as Omni Trio stormed the jungle scene with the "Renegade Snares" and Foul Play

1994 was the peak of Jungle . The clubs such as AWOL (A Way Of Life), Jungle Rush, Jungle Fever, Thunder And Joy, Roast and Thrust were spinning jungle on full. This year, jungle was most influenced by ragga basslines and rasta vocals. This was a revitalised year of jungle rave madness. Dream Team ( Bizzy B. and DJ Pugwash ) came up with the track "Yeah Man" which remained on the pirate stations for another 4 months. DJ Hypealong with DJ Zinc and Pascal created an label called Ganja , which later became one of the major labels on the scene.

The number of jungle pirate stations had enormously increased. Kool FM pirate station was the main source of jungle refreshment to the crowd. Although raided more than 5 times, it still kept going strong. Jungle managed to conserve what rave had lost two years before. Krome and Mr. Time had made a classic, legendary track called "The Licence" with the sample of Papa-Levi & Saxon Sound - a track which made the crowd go hyper.

The jungle atmosphere remained fresh and happy. The phenomenon was purely London based and had no equivalent anywhere. Labels like Tearin Vinyl, Rugged Vinyl, Ganja Kru, Joker, Reinforced , Certificate 18, Photek Recordings, Prototype, Liftin Spirit and Ram were a refreshing source of jungle music. DJ Rap at her label, Proper Talent had created a symbolic ragga influenced track "Intelligent Woman" with vocals by Candy. DJ Hype rolls out "Tiger Style", while Dillinja brings a mellow track named "Sovereign Melody".

By that time, even Fantazia and Telstar had realised, that jungle was very popular, which led to production of the compilations called "Fantazia takes you into the Jungle" and "Jungle Mania" by Telstar. A mad junglistic rave named "Telepathy" provided the unforgettable experience for many. World Dance's main arena now becomes jungle oriented. At the end of the year, a daughter style started developing. Under the name "Drum & Bass" - representative of the Jungle's content, the style was directed at the new school technique to approach the same concept of music.


a bit to read but its pretty on the ball... PRAISE THE DAUGHTER STYLE!!!

Nice bit of history there although youcould of put it alot simpler...

Personally i wouldnt call shut up and dance jungle, it catorgrise some of it as jungle, mostly oldskool breakbeat techno realyl with a bit of hip hop thrown in.

Jungle is like dnb but more rythmic, often with very trancey breakdowns. And piano ryths simaler to oldskool hardcore. Then true this evovled to become dnb

(note. dnb is pants, jungle is good please dont confuse the two its just rude)

[Doctor E.vil]

I think DnB is just another name for jungle or vise versa. It's like when people started talking about hydro, and then came along indoe (slang for indoor, which some confused and thought it was indonesia weed. wack!), same thing. Who cares what came first. It's a chicken or the egg riddle.

[~Ows~]

its not much of a riddle jungle came first!

you won't find much dnb before 94

[eyliusevil]

here kiddys listen to the differece:

Jungle:
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Listen to the drums and basslines in comparrison to:
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seriously if you can hear the difference your obviously def.

[~Ows~]

ty evil got it spot on there

NEXT PERSON TO SAY JUNGLE DNB GETS A SLAP!!!

[greeneyes]

personally jungle is more of an old school feeling like aphrodite-ish

and dnb is more rythmic and newer sounding

[eyliusevil]

WHOA ARE YOU SERIOUS! LIKE APHRODITEISH??? I think your wrong.