Difference betwixt Jungle and DnB?

[affinity1]

Whats The Difference Between Jungle And Drum And Bass??????

[Kail18]

in my opinion there is NO differance they are merely styles of the same music
but iv been told Jungle is more hard edge in your face and more of the tracks that are remixed hip hop and rap songs are called "jungle" more often

[daved]

when i thnk of jungle i think of more old school chopped up drum beats, more rythmic, not as fast, but i guess theres not really a way to decipher one from the other

[zupermike]

Originally Posted by maj3st1lici0us

when i thnk of jungle i think of more old school chopped up drum beats, more rythmic, not as fast, but i guess theres not really a way to decipher one from the other

yeah I've always thought of it the same way. To me jungle is what it was, drum and bass is what it has evolved into.

[JungleCat]

"When it was fun it was called Jungle, then it got serious and became Drum and Bass" ~Reid Speed

[Kail18]

Reid speed is 1 cool ass woman!

[junglejunky]

i personally like DNB more because its more fluent. Jungle seems more wild and in your face. Dont get me wrong tho....i love RAW, general malice and apx 1

[Tekneekz]

History of Jungle / Drum & Bass:

Breakbeat was an underground music which had originally come in from the USA in the late 1970s. Frankie Bones , at his early DJ-ing stage had created breakbeat irregular music, whereby he had overlapped two same records on turn-table decks at slightly different speeds and slightly delayed. This would create asynchronous beat, which would drive the crowd crazy. His track named "Bones Breaks" was a pioneer if not discovererof breakbeat which has remained strictly underground since. In the late 80s, house scene erupted in UK, especially in London. As house scene had progressed, the ecstasy rave culture had emerged from the youth, suppressing the football hooliganism. House from one side and breakbeat from the other side had created a combination, which later led to production of what was called jungle and what is now called drum & bass.

It was around 1990 , when jungle started emerging from the general dance scene. Kickin'and Shut up & Dance record labels started fusing breakbeat, house, hip-hop, reggae, techno and most importantly dub to produce what they called Jungle. In fact the name originates from one of the experimental clubs in London, called "Jungle" where the first fusion experiments were played. The term "jungle", though, had remained in the underground until 1993.

DJ Hype creates breakbeat feeling by mixing house and hip hop at 45 rpm on Phantasy FM. Later co-produces some of the first jungle tracks under the name The Scientist, with the tracks like "Excorcist" and "The Bee". Telepathy - one of the first hardcore jungle clubs kick starts in November. Mickey Finn creates the track Bionic Man, which uses the same idea as the Excorcist. 1992 was the year when the hardcore music was peaking.

Jungle was often confused with hardcore, which was quite similar at the time, but was directed more towards 4/4 base beat, rather than looped asynchronous rhythm. Jungle had just made its way to a larger audience, while hardcore was a total novice to the dance scene. Both jungle and hardcore were played at the same raves and sometimes the artists didn't even know whether the track they made was jungle or hardcore. Both of the styles were co-existing under one roof and so there was no separate jungle scene.

Johnny Jungle (today known as Pascal) had released a hit called "Johnny" which was a beginning of the new era. Johnny L created "Hurt You So" on XL recordgins, which highlighted the breaks out of the hardcore formula. 4Hero, LTJ Bukem ,Grooverider, DJ Hype and other future jungle producers started heading in the new breaks direction. The true jungle was ahead.

1993 was the end of confusion . Hardcore and the twin brother happy hardcore moved towards a more progressive rhythm, while Jungle remained on the breakbeat side. Though still reminiscent of 1992, artists such as Wax Doctor , headed the darker bassline sounds. At that point, jungle had finally gained its own identity - dedicated club venues such as Roast, Roller Express, Telepathy and Desire start operating on a weekly basis. Andy C comes up with the "Valley Of The Shadows" - the timeless jungle hit. Ed Rush throws the darkcore "Bloodclot Attack" while LTJ Bukem rolls out the ambient "Music". It was, not to understate, Moving Shadow 's year. Artists such as Omni Trio stormed the jungle scene with the "Renegade Snares" and Foul Play

1994 was the peak of Jungle . The clubs such as AWOL (A Way Of Life), Jungle Rush, Jungle Fever, Thunder And Joy, Roast and Thrust were spinning jungle on full. This year, jungle was most influenced by ragga basslines and rasta vocals. This was a revitalised year of jungle rave madness. Dream Team ( Bizzy B. and DJ Pugwash ) came up with the track "Yeah Man" which remained on the pirate stations for another 4 months. DJ Hypealong with DJ Zinc and Pascal created an label called Ganja , which later became one of the major labels on the scene.

The number of jungle pirate stations had enormously increased. Kool FM pirate station was the main source of jungle refreshment to the crowd. Although raided more than 5 times, it still kept going strong. Jungle managed to conserve what rave had lost two years before. Krome and Mr. Time had made a classic, legendary track called "The Licence" with the sample of Papa-Levi & Saxon Sound - a track which made the crowd go hyper.

The jungle atmosphere remained fresh and happy. The phenomenon was purely London based and had no equivalent anywhere. Labels like Tearin Vinyl, Rugged Vinyl, Ganja Kru, Joker, Reinforced , Certificate 18, Photek Recordings, Prototype, Liftin Spirit and Ram were a refreshing source of jungle music. DJ Rap at her label, Proper Talent had created a symbolic ragga influenced track "Intelligent Woman" with vocals by Candy. DJ Hype rolls out "Tiger Style", while Dillinja brings a mellow track named "Sovereign Melody".

By that time, even Fantazia and Telstar had realised, that jungle was very popular, which led to production of the compilations called "Fantazia takes you into the Jungle" and "Jungle Mania" by Telstar. A mad junglistic rave named "Telepathy" provided the unforgettable experience for many. World Dance's main arena now becomes jungle oriented. At the end of the year, a daughter style started developing. Under the name "Drum & Bass" - representative of the Jungle's content, the style was directed at the new school technique to approach the same concept of music.


a bit to read but its pretty on the ball... PRAISE THE DAUGHTER STYLE!!!

[sur america records]

Oldterm-jungle
+new Term-drum N Bass
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Same STUFF

we are all junglist!!

[c.topher]

Originally Posted by zupermike

yeah I've always thought of it the same way. To me jungle is what it was, drum and bass is what it has evolved into.

you hit the nail on the head with that one.

[Sucka Free]

I think mostly the destinction was more based on territory. Seems like the U.K and east coast heads are all about the name DnB while Jungle still seems to be a westcoast thing. Same thing, just everyone wants it to be thier own so they take for what it means to them. Jungle now, is more influenced by the Hip Hop culture incorporating samples and vocals to create such a feeling of the city and the lives we lead here. Like the name "concrete jungle" was used for refering to large cities, such as Los Angeles where the west coast scene is still up and running and ever changing and nothing like the U.K. For example most of the stuff coming out of L.A., is usually really hard and dark mostly amen'ish they prefer to call Jungle while most of the other stuff is refered to as Drum and Bass being as how the U.K heads think its a British thing. All I know is in a literal sense, its all the same but as a head its all about the Jungle shit! Like I have said before in the words of Dillinja and Lemon D "FUCK LONDON"!

[*pixy*]

Another reason why i love jungle drum n bass it's awesome i like regular jungle but not the hip hop versions really i'm more into the jungle reggae ha ha to me i like it better than the regular jungle buuuuuuut jungle drum n bass and drum n bass are my most fav's by far