Psytrance...rave music?

[sausee]

Good first post psy kick. I am in envy of you getting to party in Goa.

[k4ndykid]

Originally Posted by Psy-Kick

Hey,

I just came to America and am in Atlanta. Ive been browsing these forums for a few days now and have made the following observations.

1. Techno, drum and base, hard house... etc etc parties that go on all night here are being called raves... This is new.

2. I read some where someone who listened to psy trance called himself a raver and people responded with confusion. Then someone corrected him saying that he wasn't a raver but a trancer or some shit like that donno.

Anyway, I come from India and have been listening to psy since i was a kid and have been to many parties so here is what I have to say.

Psytrance as a genre has grown to become huge, and it is difficult sometimes differentiate due to fuzzy boundaries between different genres. Yet and a big YET, when I listen to a psy trance track I know its a psy trance track, simple as that.

Now as far as what a rave is... back home when I went to parties in goa ( and I've been to many, many many ) on the famous beaches of anjuna, vagator in places like hilltop, bamboo forrest, dolce vita etc we used the term 'party' and 'rave' synonymously. So I find it messed up that people here think to the contrary that other forms of music constitute a rave ( its almost derogatory). finally, in the city it is usually hard to have raves outside in the open, but I would not consider a psytrance event in a club to be a rave. So to me a rave is out in the open.

Now a rave ( my type of party ) is all about peace, freedom, acceptance unity and what not... there is no judgement. It is not about drugs etc though I have taken them at parties and I know what people mean when they talk about spirituality etc. Again, if it is about spirituality to some so be it Accepted!!

About the music at parties. I have been to festivals ( raves that last for 2 or more days ) and afternoon to evening parties, sunrise parties, sunset parties and the usual run of the mill evening to morning parties. And let me describe the music at the run of the mill evening to mornng parties. the party will start ( and again this is almost always the scene in outdoor raves, at clubs usually its just full on all night long, no transitions ).

So we start our journy with chillout around ten at night. Now chill out doesnt mean its slow... we're still sending at 140+ bpm. but the mood of the music is peaceful relaxing, not overwhelming, just tap your feet, take in the atmosphere, find your spot etc etc.

We then slowly transition to Full on full power music ( full on full power ... key terms here and coloqial in rave lingo ). you cant stop your legs from moving, hell you want to jump around, run , sit stand fly everything at the same time. the music is uplifting, full of sounds that throw you left right. This lasts till about 2am. ( depending on the mood of the party the dj etc )

Then past 2 we are getting into the dark of the night. the beat is persistent and there is no escaping the dark, spooky, eary sounds. The music is deep, tense, almost scary. It wont release you even if you want out. Yet, it captivates you, opens you up.

Just when you are about to give up and die, with the first rays of the sun as the morning greets the universe you've been in for a while and realise where you've been all night as faces become real, the dj plays the first morning track and it is happy happy music full of melodies that make you smell the flowers. you just wanna sway your head feel on the sun the morning dew and be swept away in the melodies behind/in front of the music thats been at 145+ bpm all night. this goes on from sunlight till 8-9 when the party ends.

After regurgitating all this, man I wish i was at a party. Also for a crash course, pretty much everything on IsraTrance.com is psytrance.

Hope this helps. Boom Shankar.

FUCK YEAH this is what I'm talking about. That is a real party.

[Psy-Kick]

I dont know if you guys have heard this before but its funny

Pacman, a guy who runs around a dark room, listening to weird electronic music and eating strange pills.

Haha... thought it was the ultimate game, what a coincidence.

[sausee]

Originally Posted by Psy-Kick

I dont know if you guys have heard this before but its funny

Pacman, a guy who runs around a dark room, listening to weird electronic music and eating strange pills.

Haha... thought it was the ultimate game, what a coincidence.

That's funny. I remember an old pacman record I opened a mix up with way back in the day. This is what it said..." Here we go again. The chase is on. I better get one of my energizers. GULP. Everytime I get an energizer those ghost turn blue. I love to watch them turn blue. There's nothing I'd rather do." Sounds like a cool E trip.

[Psy-Kick]

Thats one for a the wall man. The brother speaks the truth. man its been a loooong time.

[MystikWorldRecords]

Psy-trance/goa is the only good rave music there is. and yes in the last years it has become very popular in the US. there is nothing like going to a psytrance party. its not like going to a regular rave with house and progressive trance....different scene. listen to some of the older tracks and you'll see that alot of it is darker.

[Mr. Roboto]

Here in the US psytrance is hugely on the rise. The Midwest has a great scene and also on the West Coast. Psytrance is NOT rave music although does get played at raves on occasion. Psytrance is Psytrance. And the events, even with less attendance, blow away any and all raves I've been to. (although I will play a rave to spread the music and share what everybody there seems to wanting and missing)

If your interested, these are only a few of the US psytrance groups that are holding events on a regular basis. Normally there is travel involved but that's part of the fun. ROADTRIP! Oh, and you can probably leave the beads at home (so 1999). There is plenty of eyecandy.

Chilluminati.org
Eosomnium.com
Geomagnetic.tv
Mindoutpsyde.com

These events are not for the faint at heart but, you will meet some amazing people and hear some amazing music.

[p_aul]

Originally Posted by Mr. Roboto

Here in the US, psytrance is post grad school for ravers. It is hugely on the rise in the Midwest and has a great scene on the West Coast. Psytrance is NOT rave music although does get played at raves on occasion. Psytrance is Psytrance. And the events, even with less attendance, blow away any and all raves I've been to. (although I will play a rave to spread the music and share what everybody there seems to wanting and missing)

If your interested, these are only a few of the US psytrance groups that are holding events on a regular basis. Normally there is travel involved but that's part of the fun. ROADTRIP! Oh, and you can probably leave the beads at home (so 1999). There is plenty of eyecandy.

These events are not for the faint at heart but, you will meet some amazing people and hear some amazing music.

so a gathering of a bunch of people listening to a genre of electronic music is not what most people would call a rave? techno is techno, house is house, electro is electro blah blah blah...sorry to knock you down so hard here, i know you are just promoting your shit, which i can appreciate. But i dusted off the old vinly and played at a psy party in a club last night. what would you call that? psy all night, and then me playing acid trance. Oh well, i'm just wasting my time being a dick to you for no good reason because rave is dead, and psy psucks.

[TrAnCeFrEaK]

Psytrance kicks ass and israel throws some sick ass parties!!!!

[p_aul]

Originally Posted by Bonkers

Ok, I have been told that Psytrance is still considered rave music, especially the good dark stuff, but the promoters here dont consider their Psytrance parties raves, they say its more like a gathering/spiritual/ritual concept, which after attending these events, I can somewhat see the more "structure" they talk about it, like from 10:00pm-8:00am, its just non-stop dark tribal beats whereas a rave usually changes from genre to genre. I dunno...someone enlighten me please!!

i didnt see this was the first post, sorry, i have to get used to the layout of this site here.

i was at a "psy" party last night. it was different than a "rave" because it was held at a club and it had a PVC theme. however i was dj'ing some acid trance with my buddy, and the rest of the dj's were psy-ish.

but if someone wants to tell you that psy isnt rave music, i would have to disagree. "raves" play electronic music, which psy is. end of story.

i go to a club featuring electro house dj's, and there is a different feel than if i go to a drum and bass event. same goes for the psy party last night, its a different crowd than the breaks party happening on the other side of town. throw any of these genres in an event that only plays that type of music, and you will get a different feel. mash them all together and call it a rave, and you will have a rave...

[Twisted DUO]

Boom Shankar Psy-Kick!!!
It's great to get the perspective from across the globe. Especially from somebody who has witnessed it from it's origins.

Originally Posted by MystikWorldRecords

Psy-trance/goa is the only good rave music there is. and yes in the last years it has become very popular in the US. there is nothing like going to a psytrance party. its not like going to a regular rave with house and progressive trance....different scene. listen to some of the older tracks and you'll see that alot of it is darker.

You're in Las Vegas?
Me too. Hit me up. Got some gatherings going on this summer. You'll probably want to be part of.

Namaste-

[twigburst]

A bunch of freaks listening to EDM for hours, dancing, high on various drugs. Sounds like a rave to me. Some people really like to complicate shit that isn't all that complicated. I've heard psytrance at non-psytance parties before, does that rule them out as raves as well? I've heard rock and roll at raves before, still didn't change what it was. The scene is what makes it a rave, not just the music.