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Old 10.11.2005, 6:28 am
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Paul Oakenfold is a good DJ. He is up there with all the other best DJs such as tiesto, PVD, AVB etc... but leaving with a slutty girl?? he's in it for some ass and the fame and fortune.. not the music.
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I used to love his mixes...like Global Underground: NY is my fave...but then I spun with him in Atlanta and heard him mix..then caught other mixes...didn't leave me to impressed....but whatever. I really don't have thoughts on him positive or negative....he has contributed a lot to the scene in the UK...which help start things in the US....so for that I am grateful...but Bunkka was a lame album!
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considered sellout? it isn't considered, it is a fact. Trance is the homoginized crap that they feed all of those who don't know any better. This is why trance is so widely accepted. It doesn't contain any other elements of music and is manufactured. What about the soul, funk, disco influence that is present in all other electronic music genres. Trance is easy to accept, because it is manufactured for white people, and the rave scene, predominantly white people.

I think trance is a bad excuse for electronic music
Where do I want to start on this...

I don't...

Why?

Because this is the lamest shit I've heard since Oakey's - Bunkka...

Don't like the progressive stuff that's out there... I don't blame you.. But open your mind a bit... How can you say that trance is "souless"?... Because there's no bongos or horns?... Because most trance doesn't have a certain "tribalism" to it...

Trance is rock star's music... That's why it's soo accepted... It's produced, written, and constructed in much of the same manner as alot of rock and roll is... Rock and Roll is genuinely American music... So it makes sense why Americans would flock to trance sounds...

You want some original trance choons... Try scoping out the subgenres... Psytrance, Goa, Acid Trance... About as "un-funk" as one will get... But it's production value makes it one of the most technical EDM styles out there...

<in the edit>
!!!... I just realized what your real problem with trance is... You're one of those techno purists!!!... You're distaste for trance goes deeper than just not liking it... Trance took your precious techno music to a softer level... It took the 4/4 bang and blip-and-bleep sounds out of the warehouses and into clubs... Techno music remained an idle sound until house and trance evolved from it...

I love techno... Techno is the root of trance music...It's the root of most modern EDM... For this I can respect... But techno purity is long dead... Way too many people with way too many influences producing these days...
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Where do I want to start on this...

I don't...

Why?

Because this is the lamest shit I've heard since Oakey's - Bunkka...

Don't like the progressive stuff that's out there... I don't blame you.. But open your mind a bit... How can you say that trance is "souless"?... Because there's no bongos or horns?... Because most trance doesn't have a certain "tribalism" to it...

Trance is rock star's music... That's why it's soo accepted... It's produced, written, and constructed in much of the same manner as alot of rock and roll is... Rock and Roll is genuinely American music... So it makes sense why Americans would flock to trance sounds...

You want some original trance choons... Try scoping out the subgenres... Psytrance, Goa, Acid Trance... About as "un-funk" as one will get... But it's production value makes it one of the most technical EDM styles out there...

<in the edit>
!!!... I just realized what your real problem with trance is... You're one of those techno purists!!!... You're distaste for trance goes deeper than just not liking it... Trance took your precious techno music to a softer level... It took the 4/4 bang and blip-and-bleep sounds out of the warehouses and into clubs... Techno music remained an idle sound until house and trance evolved from it...

I love techno... Techno is the root of trance music...It's the root of most modern EDM... For this I can respect... But techno purity is long dead... Way too many people with way too many influences producing these days...
You are right about one thing. I am a Techno purist. I like my music original, underground and to the point. Trance just isn't like this. I don't like trance, it sucks. Period. I will never give it a chance because it is and will always be the downfall of electronic music.

Epic Trance. Ha. Psy Trance. Ha. Progressive. blah blah blah. I have heard it all before.

And if you don't think I know music to apoint where I haven't listened to enough trance to make an honest decision, well then try working for a well know internet record store for 8 years doing the buying and sampling of ALL music, and then tell me I need to listen to more music. I have over 10,000 records in my collection too, and there is house, techno, reggae, hip hop, and everything in between.

I guess we will have to agree to disagree.
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considered sellout? it isn't considered, it is a fact. Trance is the homoginized crap that they feed all of those who don't know any better. This is why trance is so widely accepted. It doesn't contain any other elements of music and is manufactured. What about the soul, funk, disco influence that is present in all other electronic music genres. Trance is easy to accept, because it is manufactured for white people, and the rave scene, predominantly white people.

I think trance is a bad excuse for electronic music
Well to your dislike, trance is the epitome of electronic music.

Nothing can give me that natural high just by listening to it, like trance can. Nothing elevates me like trance can. Im a funky house head at heart, but trance will always be there to relax me when i need to calm down, forget about everything, and just focus on the music. Trance takes you places.

LikE epiphane says..

T IS FOR TRANCE!
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epitome to some. Grave stone to others.

I just can't believe how easily herded this flock is here, just like 90 percent of the rest out there, by trance crap. I thought the rave scene was supposed to be underground, for the people by the people. This is music for the people by the people with the most money to spend on marketing and promotion driven by record sales and mainstream acceptance. This is what I hate about trance, and why I think it will be the downfall of the scene.

I have my opinions, and you all have yours, but neither of us will change our opinions, and this is fine. I am listening to all your points, are you listening to mine?
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epitome to some. Grave stone to others.

I just can't believe how easily herded this flock is here, just like 90 percent of the rest out there, by trance crap. I thought the rave scene was supposed to be underground, for the people by the people. This is music for the people by the people with the most money to spend on marketing and promotion driven by record sales and mainstream acceptance. This is what I hate about trance, and why I think it will be the downfall of the scene.

I have my opinions, and you all have yours, but neither of us will change our opinions, and this is fine. I am listening to all your points, are you listening to mine?
IM listening, i just think its ridiculous to call it the "downfall" of electronic music just cuz you dont particularly enjoy it.
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You are right about one thing. I am a Techno purist. I like my music original, underground and to the point. Trance just isn't like this. I don't like trance, it sucks. Period. I will never give it a chance because it is and will always be the downfall of electronic music.

Epic Trance. Ha. Psy Trance. Ha. Progressive. blah blah blah. I have heard it all before.

And if you don't think I know music to apoint where I haven't listened to enough trance to make an honest decision, well then try working for a well know internet record store for 8 years doing the buying and sampling of ALL music, and then tell me I need to listen to more music. I have over 10,000 records in my collection too, and there is house, techno, reggae, hip hop, and everything in between.

I guess we will have to agree to disagree.
I don't argue your music knowledge one bit... Most techno purists are musically intellectual people... And believe or not, I understand your hate for trance music... I know quite a few techno purists and some I'd even call elitists... Meaning, thier attitude is "if it's not techno, it's not shit."....

Most techno, in my opinion, is boring and dry... It's like a sandwich with no condiments, all meat and bread.... Yah the basics are covered... A nice steady 4/4, some percussions, and some synthlines... But overall, techno leaves way too much "gray area" as far as music listenablility is concerned...

I like to think of pure techno music as the core of the many genres that spawned from it... Now as a purist, you may think that as these genres that came from techno as perversions of the original form... But I like to think of it as "Alpha" of music... The first of a long line of technology-based dance music genres...

I've jacked this thread long enough... I agree to disagree with you (even though, I don't completely disagree with you)... But the makes for great discussion...

Now back to your regularly scheduled program...
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Wow Oakey Used To Be The Shit But Now He's A Fuckin Wack Ass Pop Spinnin Sell Out.. What About That Song With Crazy Town?????


Lmfao!!!!!!!!! :d
Lol... ya can say he sold out but i'd prefer to say his tastes have varied from that of which we have come to love... but now he's into the money of the pop scene??? But thats what happens when ya wanna start makin serious money... not that he wasn't makin enough as it was!!!
He was a really big influence on our scene, one of the founders of what we have today, but as per usual his tastes have shifted and so to his fans have reneged on him!!!
He is still a great artist, but we cant hate him for changin styles can we???
Your thoughts???
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Oakenfold bores me... but I'm really picky with my trance

IDK why you don't like MixMag, though... some quality shit comes from there...
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i used to like oakenfold, over the years his style has drastically changed, now it's more like music that'd put me to sleep...
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I love Oakenfold!!
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