Hillary Clinton or Barack Obama for President?

[Astridddddd]

Originally Posted by HuggyBear

I own several firearms and never used them in a commission of a crime. So watch out for your own shortfalls with sterotypes. Jackass!

haha well youve obviously proven youre a GENIUS.

i never said shit that merely owning a gun makes you a criminal, or a racist. the fact of the matter is there is an alarmingly large population of people who arent as REFINED as yourself.

and p.s. used is past tense, indicating you have not in the past. welcome to the present jackass...

[psycho2191]

id never vote for a woman, so easily my vote goes for barack!



but i dont vote....pointless

[HuggyBear]

Originally Posted by Astridddddd

haha well youve obviously proven youre a GENIUS.

i never said shit that merely owning a gun makes you a criminal, or a racist. the fact of the matter is there is an alarmingly large population of people who arent as REFINED as yourself.

and p.s. used is past tense, indicating you have not in the past. welcome to the present jackass...

Oh I see, your literary skills are second to none! I mean your grammar is spotless after all.

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[Spunkt]

Originally Posted by moogle

I am sorry to say, but the Democrats will lose again in the Presidential elections. Why? America is not ready for a black or a woman president, as there are lots of racist and sexist all over this country that makes it hard for them to be it. I could see 20 yrs from now yes, but 2008... Democrats need a better candidate. I see another Republican being president, I hope not as dumb as G W Bush.

I think Hillary has a better shot of winning because of her skin color, that's just my opinion though. America is not ready for a black president yet. But I give that guy props for being the first black person attempting for the presidency.

As racist as the United Sates is, it is also a very sexist one. Through American history Blacks got their rights before women. I think America is more ready for a black president then a woman as president. Remember "Women are the nigger of the world." or whatever John Lennon said.

But know this, an atheist will never be president. America hates us.

P.S. It was cool meeting you yesterday.

[rAvInPsYcHoNaUt]

Of course an athiest will never be president. We have to many ignorant fucks to realize the necessity of our scientific progression, and our country was founded within a Diest thought movement.

American politics will always need the crutch of religion to compensate for it's corrupt standards of credo .

[detroitPLURkid]

Hillary Clinton no questions asked

[Trickster]

Hillary Clinton all the way because like somebody already said on this forums we need someone with balls and she has way more then clinton and Obama and thats what we need is a strong president who knows what's going and isn't a push over. Obama is too new to the game.

[Kasper Kasper Kasper]

WAHT THE FUCK!?!?!? ARE YOU FUCKING KIDDING ME!?!?!

someone with "balls"
ok listen bud, this bitch has been in an abusive relationship for over 20 fucking years. her husbands fucks her over and gets away with with, what the fuck do you think is going to happen when a terrorist attacks us? do you even know anyhting about her policy!?!?!? shes fucking crazy. she flip flops even more than john kerry!!! first shes against the war, then she votes to go to war, now she "retracts" her previous statments, wtf? thats the president youre an idiot.

and whats this about "experience"?? you REALLY think clinton has more experience than obama? do you think that bitch wouldve become a senator (let alone president) if her husband was never in office? FUCK NO. no one knows who the hell she is, she comes froma rich upper class family and she doesnt KNOW the problems of the people, let alone empathize with the. the bitch has what, 4 years of political experince and you want her to runthe most powerful nationin the world? WHAT THE FUCK IS WRONG WITH YOUR THOUGHT PROCESS.

have you even LOOKED at other candidates? or are you a closeminded assfuck that stays in your party because thats what mommy and daddy do?
what about lieberman? hmmmm????? what about guiliani??? what about mccain????


christ if either of clinton or obabma win, the country will literally fall apart.

Originally Posted by PinkE

well I don't vote....but if i had to choose....wow this is a tough one.


i'd say i'd probably vote another party

i fucking love you





is everyone in this fucking thread just ignorantly voting along democratic party lines? the "daily show" is fuckign brainwashing you kids.

we need someoen (who ever the hell it is) to stand up and do whats best for the country as a WHOLE. look at one of the greatest nations of all time. THE ROMAN/GREEK EMPIRE. hmmm.... why did they last for so long and impact the world we live in so severly?!?! BECAUSE THEY DONT PUT UP WITH BULLSHIT. terrorists = bullshit
border problems = bullshit
both hillary AND obabma want to tax the upper class more, and give the money to the lower class that are stuggling.... THAT SOCIALISM. HITLER WAS A FUCKING SOCIALIST.

just a little backround info for my following statment :

of the top 10% wealthiest households in america, 90% of them are husband and wife, both who went to college, and whom both work for their money.

of the bottom 10% of the poorest households in america, 87% have been on welfare, are unemployed, and dont contribute to society.

with that being said, both clinton and obama want to take money ftom the people that EARN IT (like you and i) and GIVE IT AWAY to people that are too lazy to get a job. fuck that, what the fuck would have happened to the holy roman empire if they just started giving their fuckin shit away to poor people? the country would have fucking DIED.

stop looking at whatever candidate IS NOT bush and not PRO WAR, and start looking at a candidate that had the best interest of the future of this nation as a whole you fucking jackasses.

i still cant believe someoen said this VVV

"what we need is a strong president who knows what's going and isn't a push over. Obama is too new to the game."

YOURE AN IGNORANT BUFFOON. GAHHH. peopel like you get me violently angry. HILLARY IS NEW. SHE IS NOT STRONG. HOW THE HELL IS SHE STRONG?!?!?! you wanna see strong? LOOK AT RONALD FUCKING REGAN.

[Trickster]

*chants breathe in breathe out* calm down, buddy no need to get upset. So she was in a marriage that was more politcal then anything else *shrugs* who the fuck cares I bet she has her fuck buddy on the side too or is asexual. Second of all she flip flops *shrugs again* Different/new information causes people to flip flop on ideas. So what if she's rich don't blame her for her family's power and money. Most powerful country in the nation if that's your opinion honestly I think China is coming up on us fast and all powerful nations will fall one day. And your right I might be doing this because of how I was influenced by my mom (my dad's a republican).

So after what you said I went and looked up who was in each party you suggested and just to mention you spelled giuliani wrong. So mccain is a republican, lieberman is an independent democrat, and giuliani is I assume is a republican cause it says he wants to cut taxes. The thing is I don't like the republicans take on immagration, environmental issues, and social security they seem to beat around the bush on that subject. Maybe i'm wrong I'll read up more on the issues, but that's what i'm getting. All you had to say was you know you might want to check out other people no need to get upset about it.

Some suggestions though don't get so upset about things. There isn't any reason to cuss or call others names, just because different views. For some reason it reminds me of bush, its like oh shit someone bombed us lets go attack some other nation just because.

[daved]

obama>clinton>mccain. mccain being probably almost as bad a choice as bush...

god i need to get out of this country

[Kasper Kasper Kasper]

srry trickster :/

yea i get worked up easily lol.

but its nice to see soemeone that will look at issues and make an informed decision. i dont mind which way soemone votes, it just bugs when i see all these anti bush assholes that dont even bother to get the whole story!!!

you certainly did impress me and i apologize.

for instance everyone blames bush and "the war" for our deficit, welllll
maybe somone should look at how we are pumping out $80 BILLION a year to the sudan alone in foreign aid!!! wtf are we aiding the sudan for? we need to look out for #1, which is america. no amount of money can save sudan, and we need the money much more over here lol.


but daved, i dont think you can get out fast enough for me.

[Trickster]

Worked up easily can be a good thing sometimes lol. Anyways I didn't mean to impress you at all I just thought that you have a point and I'm not afraid to admit when I'm wrong or have been miss informed or just don't know much about the subject other then what I hear from other people and I do also apologize for not being the smartest american when it comes to learning about my nations politics next time I enter a political or any other conversations I'll be sure to look up things so I don't come off as a total idiot.

Kasper we need hell of a lot money and I agree we can't be worrying about other nations problems because like you said we should always be number one priority.

daved I don't understand your urgency to get out, don't you want to help fix the problems of your country rather then run away from them?