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Old 24.12.2008, 5:28 am
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This member is the original thread starter. deep Quaint, isnt it?

Now, regardless if any, or even all of you care, America is a horrible place to raise a child. I only say this simply for the fact, i have lived no where else, and i have no reference thusly no place to state this across the globe. In america, we breed delusion. its almost mind boggling at the degree as well, for if you look closely, its what we are about. Propaganda, we dilute the youth's already established form of reality with THOUSANDS of adverts, campaigns, threats, and yes, even religous bigon. And before i continue, yes, this has much more ado than just the fallacy of america.

We constantly throw out images that you "want" to be, and then hippocritically(as a culture i suppose) smash these images with a clash of moral, value, and oh look at that, more images of perfection that sir, you want to be. In america, all that we want to do is tell you who you are, how your going to be that, and exactly why you shouldnt. we practically run off some horribly disastrous runoff tornado of delusion that we manage to live off of and happen to actually thrive from. why is this? well with the constant re-application of imagery and perception we force against ourselves, that if we were to look at on a grand scale it perhaps would resemble a photosensitive epileptics nightmare, it is obvious that we are also bred for pain. Pain in this case, clashing of reception. We take in and in this and that, and then suddenly something comes along to sway you another way, with this constant flux of perception we are recieving an endless flow of concious that eventually leaves a void from where it last drifted off from, we forget these now ill percieved gains and now we are left with "this is good, that was bad". the problem being, when we are constantly changing whats good and whats bad, well, what happens is the bad comes back throughout the shift through the process of well, syloggism i.e "if p=q and q=r then p=r" well what happens is we, being the complex beings we are, expand this towards greater ideas and well, conflict begins as new ideas are brought to us conflicting a bad of a good we are with stating that the bad we had is also a good but part of a bad of a new idea and well considering these ideas have MULTITUDES of good and bad, one bad connects as one of the goods in one idea yet that idea is still valid in our minds via it almost conforms with the previous idea.

if the above doesnt only cause pain in conception, well my proof is in the pudding.

Now, delusion, well, i suppose its safe to say we all live in delusion, delusion may not be exostentially in the terms of our day to day life, merely a reprucussion, but it is endostentially via our operative minds, thus it even is quintessential via perception as delusion much less is perception because the five dimensions(quint). the First being the simple point, the second, a line, the third a plane, the fourth time (i.e. the lines develop planar existances) and the fifth, well the line inside a line. after all, if time is an illusion my friend, well so are you.

so you, essentially are a mere delusion, as is our ideas and confirmations.

a bit much to prove a simple statement, but i leave at that. Quaint, isnt it?
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Can I take you home with me?
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heh, i dont know, im prob a bit far out of reach :P
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Default Re: Quaint, isnt it?

I am sure you are trying to say something sincere; but what mind altering substance were you on at the time??? Sorry man, but the general flow and free associations you make in that rambling dissertation were too random and disjointed for me to get a clear picture of what you are trying to say. I guess I need to take whatever you were on in order to follow it. Musta been something hella good tho lol.

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Wow, interesting read. I think the basic format for this argument/cultural criticism is:

Bullshit, bullshit, bullshit, bullshit, bullshit, bullshit, admission of no actual research into said subject, bullshit, bullshit, big words not fully understood by the author, bullshit, bullshit, bullshit, bullshit, more big words, bullshit, bullshit, bullshit, bullshit, random string of "imagery" words, bullshit, bullshit, bullshit, bullshit, bullshit, bullshit, bullshit, bullshit, statement claiming self-fulfilling disorganized logic is actually evidence, bullshit, bullshit, bullshit, bullshit, more big words pulled from pop-psychobabble mixed with mindless New Age jargon, bullshit, bullshit, bullshit, bullshit, bullshit, self-assured statement that, despite a complete and total lack of anything even approaching evidence, empirical support, or even well-developed logical ideas, the above is some form of Earth-shattering revelation and not simply something that sounded really cool when so stoned that the author couldn't find their own feet, bullshit, bullshit, bullshit.

Bullshit, bullshit, bullshit, bullshit, bullshit.

Bullshit, bullshit, bullshit, bullshit, quaint, isn't it?

There, I think I got it all.
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Originally Posted by electroskunk View Post
Now, regardless if any, or even all of you care, America is a horrible place to raise a child. I only say this simply for the fact, i have lived no where else
it's that idiotic "logic" that is in everything you've said

(who's to say there IS a right and wrong? right and wrong is a matter of opinoin.... those ads are meant for a certain audience, they "contradict" eachother because they are NOT for or by the same people.... etc)
before you fuck up your way of thinking with these half cocked theories why dont you take a break from the dim maze and ELEVATE, ILLUMINATE!!!!!!!

strengthen that foundation

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Wow, interesting read. I think the basic format for this argument/cultural criticism is:

Bullshit, bullshit, bullshit, bullshit, bullshit, bullshit, admission of no actual research into said subject, bullshit, bullshit, big words not fully understood by the author, bullshit, bullshit, bullshit, bullshit, more big words, bullshit, bullshit, bullshit, bullshit, random string of "imagery" words, bullshit, bullshit, bullshit, bullshit, bullshit, bullshit, bullshit, bullshit, statement claiming self-fulfilling disorganized logic is actually evidence, bullshit, bullshit, bullshit, bullshit, more big words pulled from pop-psychobabble mixed with mindless New Age jargon, bullshit, bullshit, bullshit, bullshit, bullshit, self-assured statement that, despite a complete and total lack of anything even approaching evidence, empirical support, or even well-developed logical ideas, the above is some form of Earth-shattering revelation and not simply something that sounded really cool when so stoned that the author couldn't find their own feet, bullshit, bullshit, bullshit.

Bullshit, bullshit, bullshit, bullshit, bullshit.

Bullshit, bullshit, bullshit, bullshit, quaint, isn't it?

There, I think I got it all.
can I take YOU home with me?????

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Just raise your kids in the woods or the mountains. Nothing like a close encounter with a bear or wolf to teach kids valuable lessons that they can apply later in life. The cold harsh winters that test the survival skills. The fresh air and clean waters.

On that note, the best woods and mountains are the US, Canada and Russia.
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Now, regardless if any, or even all of you care, America is a horrible place to raise a child. I only say this simply for the fact, i have lived no where else, and i have no reference thusly no place to state this across the globe. In america, we breed delusion. its almost mind boggling at the degree as well, for if you look closely, its what we are about. Propaganda, we dilute the youth's already established form of reality with THOUSANDS of adverts, campaigns, threats, and yes, even religous bigon. And before i continue, yes, this has much more ado than just the fallacy of america.

We constantly throw out images that you "want" to be, and then hippocritically(as a culture i suppose) smash these images with a clash of moral, value, and oh look at that, more images of perfection that sir, you want to be. In america, all that we want to do is tell you who you are, how your going to be that, and exactly why you shouldnt. we practically run off some horribly disastrous runoff tornado of delusion that we manage to live off of and happen to actually thrive from. why is this? well with the constant re-application of imagery and perception we force against ourselves, that if we were to look at on a grand scale it perhaps would resemble a photosensitive epileptics nightmare, it is obvious that we are also bred for pain. Pain in this case, clashing of reception. We take in and in this and that, and then suddenly something comes along to sway you another way, with this constant flux of perception we are recieving an endless flow of concious that eventually leaves a void from where it last drifted off from, we forget these now ill percieved gains and now we are left with "this is good, that was bad". the problem being, when we are constantly changing whats good and whats bad, well, what happens is the bad comes back throughout the shift through the process of well, syloggism i.e "if p=q and q=r then p=r" well what happens is we, being the complex beings we are, expand this towards greater ideas and well, conflict begins as new ideas are brought to us conflicting a bad of a good we are with stating that the bad we had is also a good but part of a bad of a new idea and well considering these ideas have MULTITUDES of good and bad, one bad connects as one of the goods in one idea yet that idea is still valid in our minds via it almost conforms with the previous idea.

if the above doesnt only cause pain in conception, well my proof is in the pudding.

Now, delusion, well, i suppose its safe to say we all live in delusion, delusion may not be exostentially in the terms of our day to day life, merely a reprucussion, but it is endostentially via our operative minds, thus it even is quintessential via perception as delusion much less is perception because the five dimensions(quint). the First being the simple point, the second, a line, the third a plane, the fourth time (i.e. the lines develop planar existances) and the fifth, well the line inside a line. after all, if time is an illusion my friend, well so are you.

so you, essentially are a mere delusion, as is our ideas and confirmations.

a bit much to prove a simple statement, but i leave at that. Quaint, isnt it?
Wait.. So... I got the horrible place to raise a child part, the changing image of what is good and bad part... And then I ended up in the Twilight Zone...........

It kind of sounds like you made trends equal extremist religions or something.. How is a social change going to seriously fuck up your child on the level that you speak of. It's not like we look at People magazine to decide if it's going to be okay to kill people today and tomorrow it might not be. Or that if someone is still doing something no longer trendy that they get gang raped and dragged through the streets as an example of what's wrong, and that there is a high chance of this happening everyday lol.

I could be wrong, but it would be much easier to understand what you meant if it was in English. I mean, of course it is, not counting a lot of spellings that made all the unnecessary "smart words" more confusing. It might be very difficult for someone (especially someone on RaveLinks of all places) to understand what you're talking about without having the same knowledge and/or wikipedia reading as you. Usually, I have an above average vocabulary. But damn dude, you used like 5 different words that end in ential/entially in one paragraph. I completely lost relevance of Syllogism (correct spelling btw) or planar existences to the original subject and it kind of trailed off from there. If you care to try to explain I'd be glad to try to understand what it was you meant. But at this point in time, it sounds like someone just watched a really epic '60 Minutes' episode on acid or something. No offense intended.

Maybe clarify what you were exactly trying to get at? Because the whole delusion this, delusion that, *complex things you don't know enough about to recognize the relevance of*, thus you yourself are a delusion mindfuck doesn't clear up much of anything. I'd actually like to know what you mean, instead of putting together a conclusion that I agree with that you MIGHT have meant and agree with you even though I don't know what you were actually talking about and filling in the gaps with what I THINK you MIGHT mean. Seriously though, your writing like, had it's own epic plot twist.. But then, this could be some new breed of mind-fuck troll. Oh well, I was bored. Fuck it








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Wait.. So... I got the horrible place to raise a child part, the changing image of what is good and bad part... And then I ended up in the Twilight Zone...........

It kind of sounds like you made trends equal extremist religions or something.. How is a social change going to seriously fuck up your child on the level that you speak of. It's not like we look at People magazine to decide if it's going to be okay to kill people today and tomorrow it might not be. Or that if someone is still doing something no longer trendy that they get gang raped and dragged through the streets as an example of what's wrong, and that there is a high chance of this happening everyday lol.

I could be wrong, but it would be much easier to understand what you meant if it was in English. I mean, of course it is, not counting a lot of spellings that made all the unnecessary "smart words" more confusing. It might be very difficult for someone (especially someone on RaveLinks of all places) to understand what you're talking about without having the same knowledge and/or wikipedia reading as you. Usually, I have an above average vocabulary. But damn dude, you used like 5 different words that end in ential/entially in one paragraph. I completely lost relevance of Syllogism (correct spelling btw) or planar existences to the original subject and it kind of trailed off from there. If you care to try to explain I'd be glad to try to understand what it was you meant. But at this point in time, it sounds like someone just watched a really epic '60 Minutes' episode on acid or something. No offense intended.

Maybe clarify what you were exactly trying to get at? Because the whole delusion this, delusion that, *complex things you don't know enough about to recognize the relevance of*, thus you yourself are a delusion mindfuck doesn't clear up much of anything. I'd actually like to know what you mean, instead of putting together a conclusion that I agree with that you MIGHT have meant and agree with you even though I don't know what you were actually talking about and filling in the gaps with what I THINK you MIGHT mean. Seriously though, your writing like, had it's own epic plot twist.. But then, this could be some new breed of mind-fuck troll. Oh well, I was bored. Fuck it








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well he was talking about how the things the media, as a whole, makes us want often contradict eachother
what he doesnt get is that the media DOESNT work as a wholle, and doesnt target society as a whole

"delusion may not be exostentially in the terms of our day to day life, merely a reprucussion"

i have no idea what he's trying to say here
is it just me, or does he word it completely wrong?

there's multiple ways to word it right.... but they each come with their own different meanings lol
i just gave him the benifit of the doubt when i posted, and i left this part out
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