For missy or whoever you are

[brood]

Very, very, VERY entertaining. I laughed through all six pages of this thread. However, I have to concur with a few of the people who stated that they believed that this person's entire post was just a hoax. Here is my reasoning for it... first off, very little was stated specifically as far as details are concerned. The date, name of the party (at the very least) were not given, and the identity of the person who posted was neither as well. Because of this... it would seem to me that even if this were true, this person has very little (if any) legal bearing and is just trying to push the buttons of a few people and acquire some much needed attention.

Second, from my experiences I've shared over the years, the simple fact is if anyone is serious about calling somebody out on something, then the worst thing you can do is not identify yourself and not defend your statement with some facts that would give this accusation some legitimacy. Furthermore, this person seemed very quick to state that they would only be posting once.

Now, this doesn't give MissE any leeway. Who knows if she sold drugs to 14 year old kids or not ... I personally don't know her well enough to say for sure. My guess... probably. I don't think she is a bad person, however the environment that everyone is subjected to during a party obviously functions under a different set of rules. We all know what she does, and because we go to these events and participate in these endeavors, and know how nice this woman is... we are in no way to judge what she does in her life. Regardless of whether we do drugs or not, we cannot judge because we attend this scene and should accept it for what it is at this moment (if you don't accept it, then you should try to revolutionize and change the situation).

However, lets say this was true (although I don't believe so, there can be a greater lesson learned from this). As far as practicality is concerned.. there is a very hazy line as to who truly holds the blame for the scenario that allegedly occurred. My perspective on this subject is that most of the blame would lie on the parent(s). Bad parenting seems to be the staple of this quickly degrading country. If I had a daughter, or even a sister that I loved dearly, there is no chance in Hades that I would ever let her be out past a certain time, let alone go to a rave. Yes, the parents are the main concern. Granted the child may have snuck out, it is up to the parents to put some type of restraint on a minor's activities PLAIN AND SIMPLE. When I was a child, I wasn't let out anywhere past a certain time in which I wasn't going to be unsupervised.... its easy enough. IN GENERAL, minors do not have the capacity to set limits for themselves in an organized and responsible manner. Thus are the trials and tribulations of growing up and parenting...

Morally speaking (and I am stating again that I have no idea whether or not this is true, and am not stating that MissE does this... I don't know and am simply posing this for arguments sake), a good deal of blame lies with the dealer as well because I FEEL there is some type of obligation that a dealer of a responsible age (professional in her field outside of raves) should follow concerning minors. Simply put, if someone looks too young... then tell them to let their brain develop before they start killing it first, because thats the least that any good hearted person could do for another.

Its really hard to decipher and distribute blame in this situation because so much would be contingent on the events that were carried out that night concerning MissE and the child. In this case, its really not fair to point fingers and proclaim someone as "right" or "wrong" in such a situation... but from this many things can be learned.. that is, if you decide to do something illegal, then precautions should be taken on your part to try and prevent things like this from happening. People do and sell drugs all the time. Yes, it is illegal but that does not make it immoral. Morality is contingent upon the values you uphold, at the same time there must be some standards of decency that we can all adhere to in this dirty, underground, drug infested scene. At least... I would hope so. Also, on the side of the brother and sister it is a wonderful learning lesson on your part to make sure that you are more aware of what goes on and I hope that it would push you to be a bit more involved in your sister's life. It could have very easily been somebody else that sold it to her, on another token it could easily be someone else that MissE hurts with a pill she sold to them... so, my best bet in this would be for both sides to understand that NOBODY CAN RETAIN INNOCENCE in this situation. There is plenty of blame to go around.

Also, I remember someone mentioned something along the lines of "you don't blame the bartender if somebody gets too drunk at a bar, drives home and crashes."

Well, I don't think that is an adequate conjecture on your part. The bartender, the bar, the person, everyone is to blame. But I think the important thing to realize is that a bar is not catering to people of all ages. The legal drinking limit is 21 for a reason (and should stay that way, if not raised). Thus, catering to adults and not children is a different situation than catering to a greater variance of age (which entails a higher risk itself). Its up to everyone to decide on where they stand on such an issue, but fingers should not be pointed and people should not start defending others JUST BECAUSE THEY ARE FRIENDS because dealing with friends and pointing fingers can lead to very narrow and unintellgent situations and statements.

Anyway, pretty funny post. You had everyone riled up and even got me thinking about how I would go about dealing with this situation as well as my perspective. We should all take a variety of lessons from this thread. Meh, I have pages more to type but I'm sure that was a reasonably logical explaination. I was gonna get into the R. Kelly debate but I'll save that for when someone else decides to use that as an example. Take care and be safe everyone, and see you at the next event.

[Visine]

well im sorry about ur sister.
but i have a feeling she has learned a big lesson in life.

Lets look at the postive side, shes still with us and perhaps she can educate other children on the dangers of doing drugs.

You know the ppl in durben Africa punish ppl by putting them in small inclosed room and fill it with marajuana smoke from the durben poision plant. The person gets so sick they never smoke it again.

[rAvInPsYcHoNaUt]

Welcome to the world of raving.

[XxPinkPantherxX]

The fact that she's 14 and buying drugs makes it mostly her fault
And yea she might have gotten it from someone
But they just sell it
And do you know what specifically put her in the hospital?

Originally Posted by BobbyB_III

Misse, bad move on your part, I mean the kid was 14, 14!!! I mean I may or may not be in the business too, but I have standards, and I (almost[who's perfect?])always make sure the person receiving whatever it is I might be selling is 1. Responsible 2. wont run their mouth if something like this happends 3. atleast old enough to not wet the bed at night.

I don't blame the kid at all, she is 14. How much did any of you know about e at 14? Did you know about all the possible drug interactions, and all the things it could be cut with? I think not. Maybe Psilo but he's crazy.

And no offense Misse but both of us know that some of the stuff that comes from you is cut with things besides adam, so please don't try acting to shocked.

You're a fucking tard
Yea exactly she's fucking 14 wtf is she doing consuming drugs period?
It's her fault for handing off the money too the dealer and putting the pill in her mouth and swallowing it


You can't blame ANYONE but her for consuming what caused this
That's a bunch of BULLSHIT
And are you supposed too ask for ID for each person you sell too?NO
don't be fucking stupid

[mr e man]

anyone stopped to think that maybe a narc posted that and that in 7 pages we have given them the amo they need

[Commadore12]

I totally agree w/ this guy...not on the reporting u to authorities or selling a 14 year old girl pills but selling her bad pills. I acquired some pills from her and they were the worst pills i have ever takin'. for about an hour i didnt even want to b there cuz i felt so shitty.

[XKingAlbertIVX]

Originally Posted by Commadore12

I totally agree w/ this guy...not on the reporting u to authorities or selling a 14 year old girl pills but selling her bad pills. I acquired some pills from her and they were the worst pills i have ever takin'. for about an hour i didnt even want to b there cuz i felt so shitty.

I agree with the poster above me... I had high hopes about misse's pills and they didn't work... at all... I acctually felt less happy and more angry because i was so fucking pissed off that her pills were bogus, but.. back on topic. As for the guy and his little sister, i completely see where he's coming from, I'd be furious if my sister ended up in the hospital, and i'd want to know exactly where the drugs came from. But... although 14 is very young, too young to be buying drugs, the girl did know what she was doing, and it was her fault to make the desicion to do drugs. Had she not bought the pill from miss e she would have got it somewhere else... But mainly, i will never ever buy another one of misse's pills, i took two at monster massive and i felt shitty as fuck. Before i took the pills i was more energized to dance and party than after i popped them. I was extremely dissapointed...

[Adrian]

im sure lots of ppl go to hospital bc of her shit, its da bombdiggity!!

i think the parents should have a tighter grasp of their teens.
the brother should just go fuck himself because he cant do shit about the situation except cry about it, the sister should have just shut the fuck up too. she shouldnt have spent her parents money on her drugs.

as far as who provided the sister with the pills. who cares, your sisters a druggie, therefore she has no credibility/ shed have gotten her undeveloped body drugs if not from misse from someone else.

jellybean, miss readers digest, shut the fuck up about hearing drama, i remember when u first joined this forum you pissed off regulars with ur gossip.
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[Jellybean]

Originally Posted by Adrian

im sure lots of ppl go to hospital bc of her shit, its da bombdiggity!!

i think the parents should have a tighter grasp of their teens.
the brother should just go fuck himself because he cant do shit about the situation except cry about it, the sister should have just shut the fuck up too. she shouldnt have spent her parents money on her drugs.

as far as who provided the sister with the pills. who cares, your sisters a druggie, therefore she has no credibility/ shed have gotten her undeveloped body drugs if not from misse from someone else.

jellybean, miss readers digest, shut the fuck up about hearing drama, i remember when u first joined this forum you pissed off regulars with ur gossip.
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Yes, but I didn't come on the board and START drama. I was merely trying to clear my name.

[molotov]

don't blame the parents thats gay, i was at raves when i was 14 and did X, parents were good people. what i want to know is this : how the fuck did she get enough money to buy enough pills at a rave (she probably paid 20 cause she gets knows noone who will hook her up) to OD. thats at least like 140 bones for her to od, i mean, unless she was drinking too. or like th other guy said, she had an allergic reaction. but seriously, no blame should be put on the dealer, she's just doin what she do, no dealer is gonna refuse buisness, although i will say this, when i was slingin i always asked people if they needed some info on w/e they were buyin. but thats just cause i'm a nice guy, i don't think all dealers do that...but they should.

[Adrian]

Originally Posted by Jellybean

Yes, but I didn't come on the board and START drama. I was merely trying to clear my name.

you had to clear your name because you talk way too much, and you started drama prior.

Originally Posted by Adrian

you had to clear your name because you talk way too much, and you started drama prior.

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[Jellybean]

Originally Posted by Adrian

you had to clear your name because you talk way too much, and you started drama prior.



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Bringing up old drama is pointless because it doesn't bother me. All I said was it's stupid that members keep creating new names just to cause drama with other people. Grow up. We're not in middleschool anymore.