what is this-the year of the renegade?

[tatto pat]

there's like no party's........last year,at this time it was crackin.

guess we all just went to big last year..........

and there are like so many nubes on ravelinks......like half u peeps have'nt even been raving for a year......should be called nubelinks.......

im not talkin shit......the scene has always changed......just hope it gets better and stronger

and to the peeps i do know,hit me up lets throw it down,


tattopat

plur baby plur

[GlazedTheory]

Give us time mang. The new generation of ravers looks promising. Well, the ones i'm friends with at least.

[Drakaziel]

Besides, theses renegades are KILLER. I wish we had this many all the time.

[tatto pat]

a renegade is a party not a rave.........the reason there's so many is because the people throwin them can't throw real rave's,a renegade needs no permit,has no real venue,most of the time in some empty lot.plus there starting to bring a bad crowd.....and i don't know about the new generation, peeps just don't know how to have a good time any more......have you watched some peeps try to dance..........the music is evolving though......

just an opinion,

tattopat

[Idi0tb0x]

Renengades is da real raves...


Where U been at Pat...Ain't seen you in months.

NEway...real is as real does....size and venue don't matter... it's all about the vibe kid.


Miss ur energy mang.

[tatto pat]

the vibes been suckin kid.

and ive been around in the bay and up north,doin my thing.
i still haven't got to see you spin.....

i guess i just feel this way cause i got jumped trying to sell some kids some hash,and they turned out to be some thieving bitchs........when turtles attacked was great til then.....not very plur....

[AlakazaM]

I rather go to renegades than half legal parties of which 1/3 get shut down. Plus the surrounding is better, you can bring alcohol, no annoying security, NO HOT AIR ROOMS, no bathroom lines. Need I go on?

[xDJxSAPHYREx]

"omg, somebody else should do something about how I feel about the scene!"

If you're dissapointed with the ammount of renegades and lack of indoor parties, then throw your own! If you cant or dont know how, then why are you complaining about what others are trying to do for you? Rave venues are harder to come by these days, with more and more parties getting shut down. The behind the scenes people are working their hardest so that you can be happy, so stop complaining!


As for the ammount of "newbie ravers"......its not always about how LONG you've been raving, but more your appreciation for the culture.
If you've been going to raves for 2 years for the wrong reasons (drugs, dressing like a slut for attention and making a BS claim that its to "express yourself"), then you're still a newb. Likewise, you're not a newb if you've only gone to two parties but really love the music and vibe, and maybe even not need drugs to enjoy it. WHY you go is much more important than How Long you've been going.

[nancy3102]

Originally Posted by AlakazaM

I rather go to renegades than half legal parties of which 1/3 get shut down. Plus the surrounding is better, you can bring alcohol, no annoying security, NO HOT AIR ROOMS, no bathroom lines. Need I go on?

yeah i've gots to say i kinda agree with this...indoor raves get sooo hot real quick...i rather be outdoors...it may be cold, but with all the dancing u dont even feel it.

[shitsngiggles]

the ability to bring alcohol, go "in and out" freely, and go get more alcohol make renegades A-OK with me.

p.s. pat, it's tricky for me to come to bizerkley. if you could make it out to sf sometime possibly, it'd be great to chill like old times. or maybe plan another camping trip??

[Idi0tb0x]

Originally Posted by tatto pat

the vibes been suckin kid.

and ive been around in the bay and up north,doin my thing.
i still haven't got to see you spin.....

i guess i just feel this way cause i got jumped trying to sell some kids some hash,and they turned out to be some thieving bitchs........when turtles attacked was great til then.....not very plur....

You were at turtles?

Shit...missed you...but that's my normal incognito self....Yeah that sucks man. THere's been a lot a unplur shit as of late bro...just a phase I imagine, until the new school gets it's shit together...but...you should definately come next time I play, whenever that is....seriously...miss people like you...even though we never spent much time, I CAN TELL YOU ARE TRUE....werd...let me know when next you are lurking.

[shitsngiggles]

hey rocky. let's kick it.