PROSTITOT or NOT?

[Ipsl]

Originally Posted by bayraver415

I agree with this we seem to be more chill with these young girls popping pills than we are how they dress. If we think they are to young to be dressing that way they shouldn't be in that environment. I dont feel this way but seems like a lot of people do. It may mess with them but we seem to be so into the all ages thing that i cant see how we are mad at the younger people for how they dress in the scene. Raving is about dressing how you want and expressing your self. If you dont want ptots running around talk to promoters about more 18+ parties. But dont bad mouth them for how they dress and running around raves when you choose to go to an all ages event. It seems like people are putting a double standard on this these girls are to young to dress raver but not to young to be in the scene and do drugs. I say just let them dress how they want or make all events 18+.

Im not into them popping pills either. I think that were forgetting, but than most of us aren't that old to have many references, that at that age we're not anything but a mass of flesh that dances to the tunes of our peers for acceptance. I think this a problem and yes there should be a double standard because young people are not equal to older people in mental awareness. Thats just reality. To be a little harsh what the hell are they expressing?! 9 out of 10 times they couldn't tell you a good reason behind what they're wearing in the first place or even get into the many aspects of PLURism. I don't think they should be going to raves but Im not one to judge. And to be honest I think that a 16 year old ODing is not as bad as serial rapist getting and all these young bucks. (That was just an extreme example on both sides) the clincher is at what age should this be ok? Cause if 16 and 15 why not 9 or 10? I know of some cats who were doing shit and 9 or 10. Does that make it ok? NO. To me, its all about where a person is mentally. Now a mentally aware person would wear that stuff and act in a fashion that some of them do.

Barbie for example, Ive never met her but can assume that she has self awareness and is talking about spending time on an outfit thats skimpy. Thats all well and good and she is aware of what that might entail. So Im willing to bet that she's a little more cautious about who what where and when she does what she does. I bet she wouldn't take a pill from some guy at random, but youngsters would. Thats what Im talking about its not the fact that there dressing like that.... shit I walk around as nude as is allowed when Im hot, but its the repercussions that they're not mentally prepared for and how that will in turn affect the rest of there lives as I had stated earlier in my previous post. I just hate to see more people go down the spiral cause of innocence going to a place where you should be more aware.

Originally Posted by {mac} the girl

he should paint like 'sex master turtle' on his chest.

Or how about "Tutle's Stay Hard all day"

[{mac} the girl]

Originally Posted by Ipsl

Or how about "Tutle's Stay Hard all day"

HAHAHA! yes!!! that one FTW! okay now turtle has to read this and take our advice...

[Klover]

Originally Posted by Rolllie

I LOVE THIS THREAD?

Why because people are actually debating and making conversation instead of righting and blowing up and not backing up their thoughts.

Love it.

Robert, do you think girls dressing up almost naked is just as bad as someone who is fairly young, popping lots of pills?

One is actually illegal.

You just pointed out the biggest difference between SoCal and NorCal forums.

And so true about your second point and I think both are kinda wrong....but hey...its a RAVE! Aint that the point in the end.

REBEL-ILLEGAL-REVOLT-FUN-ESCAPE-DANCE-FLAUNT-CRAZY

the list goes on.

when it comes down to it...
anything should be acceptable as long as they are SAFE and don't fuck up their lives.

plu{R} - Respect {R} -Responsibility

[razor7]

Originally Posted by hashbrownz

not to single out razor, because i noticed this in a couple post, but i think its interesting how much of this post is based on social conditioning. the part about the "base instinct" to wear clothes... just to double check you do know that wearing clothing isn't a natural instinct right? its a cultural thing. we were trained to wear clothes. in the same way, we were trained to wear clothes a certain way and to think a certain way about people who don't wear clothes the same way. there is nothing intrinsically wrong with dressing like a hoochie, but our society does have its beliefs about people that do dress this way. i have a good number of reasons why i'm skeptical of this society and its beliefs, but the one that i think is most relevant is the threads about hyphy kids, in which i thought the consensus was reached that you shouldn't judge a book by its cover.

and it might be a good idea to sport a banana hammock sometime. you never know; you might end up loving it.

That really depends on what religion you follow. For the Christians out there, because adam and eve sinned, part of the knowledge they gained was that they were naked. Before then, they never thought about the idea, and since then it's been the main reason for why we clothe, so that other's don't see us naked.

Base instinct is to keep yourself warm. I don't go running around outside when it's snowing in just my birthday suit, just as how only the unfortunate live fully outside in all types of weather. There is reason behind why people wear clothes.

I do agree though, on the basis that we are taught HOW to wear clothes. Just as how stripes and plaid are a nono, the same goes for the "style" and amount of clothing. I have been around countless people that have been shunned because their own personal style didn't match everyone else. This is definitely how we treat the PTOTs.

Now I'm not going to go back and take back things I said. I fully do not agree with youngins going into raves dressed in almost nothing. If they are 20+, then I would expect them to at least have some class when they do it. I know a girl named Babs that was in just a bra at Galactic Funk, but she had made it herself, or at least put her own personal style into it, and I didn't have a problem with it. It's just when the girls are 13ish that it bugs me.

I guess everyone is just different when it comes to what amount of clothing you should wear. To be honest, for those that know me personally, I really enjoy being naked. Every time I'm home alone, I'm ass naked. The only reason for it is that I feel constricted, and if I'm at home where nobody else can see me, then why not?

The difference is though, that I am only going to do that at home. I'm not ashamed of my body, nor do I feel it would infringe on other people. However, I do feel that there should be some specialness that only YOU have with your body. Only certain people have seen me fully naked (though just about everyone has seen my lilly white ass) and each one of them was special to me at one point in time, if not now. My parents have (obviously) seen my naked, and they mean the world to me. Versus putting yourself out on display for everyone to see I find to be a lack of character. Girls like that are a dime a dozen around at highschools and colleges these days, which is probably why I'm not attracted to it anymore.

Oh, and don't worry about picking on me. My opinions are put out there for others to judge. I'm a little bit stubborn, and extremely opinionated. Some agree with them, others completely disagree. The only thing that I hope to accomplish when I post my feeling about anything, is just that people will take in the information regardless of if they agree or not. I feel that through talking and discussions, MUCH can be learned by both sides of the debate.

Oh, and as for the banana hammock, I think i'm really just to white, plus I have a hairy ass. I don't think it'd be aesthetically pleasing to anyone really.

-TC

[bjrcboy]

Originally Posted by razor7

Oh, and as for the banana hammock, I think i'm really just to white, plus I have a hairy ass. I don't think it'd be aesthetically pleasing to anyone really.

-TC

Oh come on razor you can get it waxed! haha

-Vibes

[Ipsl]

Originally Posted by razor7

However, I do feel that there should be some specialness that only YOU have with your body.

-TC

[Simply Hibiscus]

ok for rick

thank u for bringing up the point bout guys

cause its true

its like guys dont' get shut down cause their wearing only pants and a bandana if even

but no matter what girls are gonna get called something no matter what we're wearing

unless we're in huge sweatpants and a huge sweatshirt
but even then we still get shut down

like oh why is she hidden
is somethign wrong with her under the clothes she's swimming in

what ever happened to the saying if u got it flaunt it

i mean there are boundries

cover everything that needs to be covered
and that will stay covered if ur dancing
don't wear something that would fit a fucking barbie
or where u make one move and its like ooo NIPPLE!!!

i know for me
the only reason i wear such little clothing is cause of comfort reasons and over heating
i swear i've said this like 6 times already
but
its true

and i mean fuck if were were animals we'd all be naked

for fuck sake
we're born into this world naked thats the most comfortable way for most ppl

its like when ur wearing clothes
either u get bugged about how tight ur pants are
or how low ur shirt is
theres always SOMETHING ppl are gonna not be happy about


if ur not gonna wear a lot
just make it not just a plain cotton bra and underwear

and stacked boots


and if ur gonna wear a skirt wear a bathing suit bottom tahts what i do
i mean hell if we can go to a pool wearing them and not have to worry bout stuff not showing
then why not wear it where ur gonna be dancing under something that ppl are most likely gonna be looking under

because there are creepers like that
u can't hide from them

they're gonna find someway to eye fuck ur brains out

i dunno

like i said earlier they'll get what they deserve if they act stupid

there are those (like me)
that don't wear a lot

but everythigns covered in a fashionable way
and in a creative way

but i'm not going up to every guy and jabbering and being like oh ya i'm fucked up so wanna go in this dark corner or wanna dry hump my leg while we try to dance?!!?!?!

i'm sticking to the ppl i came with
going and asking ppl if they wanna trade kandi and
then going and dancing with my friends

i just do it for comfort
but then again
the past 2 years i've gotten used to wearing nothing but a tank and shorts cause its too hot in hawaii to wear anything but


sorry this is so like oh and heres a point and heres a point

haha
brains a bit mushed due to overwork

[Klover]

Originally Posted by razor7

To be honest, for those that know me personally, I really enjoy being naked. Every time I'm home alone, I'm ass naked.
-TC

LOL same here.

Especially over summer.

I'd get home from a long day at summer camp being a counselor...walk straight to the shower, take a cold shower, and then sit around in my room naked until anyone came home.

taking the random trips to the freezer were fun as well.

[{mac} the girl]

Originally Posted by Klover

LOL same here.

Especially over summer.

I'd get home from a long day at summer camp being a counselor...walk straight to the shower, take a cold shower, and then sit around in my room naked until anyone came home.

taking the random trips to the freezer were fun as well.

yeah me too. i like to garden naked.

[jimichunga]

Originally Posted by Simply Hibiscus

but i'm not going up to every guy and jabbering and being like oh ya i'm fucked up so wanna go in this dark corner or wanna dry hump my leg while we try to dance?!!?!?!

you had me until this.

[OmniRaver]

i like panties!

[Ipsl]

I LOVE BEING NUDE IN MY HOUSE!! Freedom.

to Simply Hibiscus:

I totally understand about the cant win thing when it comes to ur clothes. I think most of here are just using the clothes part as the manifestation of a deeper mental issue. Its possible for a girl to be half naked and still have self respect. Thats where I believe the line is drawn. I think a good qualifyer would be the hug. Like theres that long good FRIENDLY hug that Im sure Klover, Raph, Turtle, and the rest give. than theres the Z hug nasty hug. Its the same thing with Girls. now that I think about it wouldn't ptots just be a passive equivalent for a plurvert?