Proof that SKILLS was in on it..

[xcaligreenx]

ok.. so pop was one of the best raves i've been to (besides the fact there were drug busts, UCs, and the power outage)

we can't blame skills for anything... Cops are dicks, they screwed up the entire party.

It's not a conspiracy, ppl just like to talk and spread rumors about shit... they find ways to link things together just for drama.

I'll definitely look forward to another skills party, as long as it runs till 4 AM instead of 1 lol

[DIZZ.((@_@)).HARD]

ITS A SKILLS CONSPIRACY BUT IM STILL GOING TO LOVEFEST! PARTY LIKE A ROCKSTAR...& RAVER!

[rachieeee]

whoaaa this thread got crazzy
i still don't appreciate the people calling me an idiot! lmao
i was only posting it because in another thread people were like OH NO SKILLS HAD NO IDEA ABOUT THE COPS AND BLABLAHBLAHfuckingblah.
and it's just like, duhhhh. of course they didd. meowwwwww.
i still think its a teeny tiny BIT messed up
idk, i guess i wish raves were how they used to be.
that's the first time i've ever experienced that at a rave, and im a type of person who takes in the energy of the whole party.. and it just gave me a really sketchy vibe the whole night. kinda ruined the party for me. but HEY, that's just me. don't take it personal, or call me an idiot. that's really not nice, i respect all of your opinions. >[:

[codyishere]

Originally Posted by specialk

Ok so when the power went out and the emegency lights went on, i knew the party was busted. I went to underground that was disguesed as a permited venue like 2 years ago and they always seem to shut the parties down at 1AM. I was sitting in a side seat durning tiesto, and tiesto was surprised himself what had happened. He even looked pissed from my account. And it looked like the ppl backstage were upset that it had to end that way too, like they knew but didn't want ppl to know. I was hella hatin at first too, but i think it's the cops stupid way to crack down on drugs to get revenue for their city. Its a ploy for money, and daily city was probably anticipating the fact that they were going to crack down a rave because in their eyes raves=big drug scene. I felt it was sketch when i got there. Im lucky i didn't see UC but im not surprised because they'll always be there. My other conclusion is maybe the cops were busting hella ppl and they felt that it was time to shut down. Ive talke to fellow ravers and they have told me, it's not a new concept to shut down massives. So i guess the moral we can say is just like any rave: big or small, theres a chance it will shut down and you just have to enjoy it for what it's worth.

FUCK THE DICK EGO COPS (cuz there are some good ppl and good cops too)

I can almost make a mini movie out of this

Skills: HEy lets throw POP at the cow powlace this year, that would make it our biggest massive ever

(IN line to get a permit from DAily City POLICE)

Skills: Hey we wanna throw our party at the cow powlace

DC POlice: Surrrre.... ne thing you need, BUT!!! there's a price!!

We must be ableee tooo....

THROW A MASSIVE STING OPPERATION IN RETURN > (GRINS) MUHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAAHAHHAH!!!!!!!!!!

Skills concious thought: Uh oh we don't want to have that there cuz thats not what all ravers are about, but i already said were going to throw it at the cow palace on the flyers, well i guess it will help the community be safe even though we didn't agree to it.

Skills: ok...

DC COPS: YES YES!! FINALLY WE CAN GET THOSE RAVERS FOR OUR REVENGE AND GET REVENUE FOR OUR SHITTY CITY!!!!!!!

do you think before you talk/type?

umm of course theres going to be cops i dont blame skills at all for having them, its everyones own fault for dealing to people they dont know.

i met a guy at pop that gave me kandi that said Kid! and ive never seen the doode before, anyway he got arrested

[Sp4c3b0y]

the fact of the matter is, is that no matter what party u go to, there are always risks of UC. That is their job. Before the party even started i was informed of the fact that there were going to be over 100 UCs wearing VIP badges, everyone i knew i told this. I am sorry the word didnt get spread to the masses but if you deal drugs theres a price u pay when some dude that doesnt really look like a raver, unless a prostitot UC got you comes asking for drugs and u want to help him out. What sucks the most is that raves are starting to become alot more mainstream. not just known but not frowned upon either. If you sell drugs, only sell to people that you know best customers and best relations.

[TiredTendencies]

lr;dr: facts about LEO from LEO source (not me), shut the fuck up noobs who are crying about the busts.

it's been said many times

i've said it many times

i'll say it again

skills and the police would never get the permission to shut down an entire power grid or 2 for a tiny drug bust. Cops "make" more money from busting single houses.
People can vouch that I'm not a narc, but I have been inside LEO before...my cousin used to be Oakland PD. SWAT Teams and other specialized teams and especially cops/the general agency really don't give a fuck about small time dealers. They like to go for the big time dealers. Especially on the street, a lot of people who get busted just become narcs/informants and don't get prosecuted. they want to climb the ladder to the big guy. Spending resources on things that get headlines like "oakland drug lord busted, $2 million in cocaine recovered" is good. They get more funding for that. They also get funding I'm sure from things like "58 busted at local rave".
But honestly guys, it's daly city, and it's a massive, what did you expect? That there would be NO COPS? ITS DALY CITY, NOT OAKLAND. I am not saying there would be no cops if it were held in oakland, but on a general level, cities that have worse crime have less funding as a whole (hence why there is worse crime...oakland being one of those cities...terrible area, terrible funding, terrible turnover to other agencies), and tend to focus their funding and officers on things like patrol, BIG drug busts, real work.

Of all the concerts I've been to in OAKLAND, (EDM and otherwise), most officers have been uniformed, and posted/patrolling one area, and posted as SECURITY. They break up fights, mainly.

In daly city, however, where this is absolutely no crime (ok, not really. But honestly, I'd rather walk through the most dangerous part of daly city at the most dangerous part of the night than through east oakland in broad daylight..) they don't really have shit to do, so obviously, consider the city, consider the venue.

Furthermore, it costs money to send people from different agencies up to bust a rave. I think i read somewhere there were like 50 (maybe it was 100..ill go with 50 so it doesn't sound like im bullshitting) different agencies' agents/officers there? Do you even realize that none of them MAKE any money from that? When you work special events, you MIGHT get a special bonus. It's not much, though. however, you get to watch whatever you're working for free, from a pretty good view (depending on where you're assigned), and hey, you're not getting shot at.

My point is, though is that police agencies don't have money to THROW at promotors like skills to say "HAY GAIZ WE R GONNA BUST UR RAVERS MMMKAY?". So whoever said skills took money from police (I saw it a few times reading through these 9 pages of mentally retarded garbage), suck on whoever's dick is in your general vicinity.

I don't know what the point of most of this was, but I'm trying to offer a view (biased from our side I guess), from the LEO side of things. Maybe if you idiots (those of you who ARE posting things such as SCAM SKILLS TOOK TEH MONIES, BUST THEY SHUT OFF THE LIGHTS ON PURPOSE, etc) know some facts you'll shut the fuck up.

Also, I saw the mobile taccom unit before the show even started. They set it up off-site, and brought it to the venue later. These things are generally necessary.

Radios use certain frequencies (cop radios) and especially the handheld ones are limited. the in-car radios have more frequencies to choose from...the handheld ones EASILY are taken up by cops chattering on them. when someone's talking on one channel, you can't talk, and you have to find a clear one to talk to whoever's running the show. the taccom unit both boosts reception (as it's right outside the venue, as opposed to wherever the radio tower is...in daly city I'd guess they might use the SF radio tower..but I don't know for sure where it is) and provides extra channels...it sort of duplicates all the channels that the patrol cars use, and clears them for the undercovers/uniforms inside to use.

[/rant], if this didn't make sense, I don't care. Just trying to enlighten a little about how the police REALLY work, and how absolutely ridiculous it would be for skills to have been "paid off" or deliberately set the lights off.

[Klover]

EDC will have roughly the same amount of UCs.

[razor7]

ROAR

I think this thread has gone on long enough. Time to end it folks. There are about 20 posts all saying the same thing.

For those who still wanna argue, start sending PM's or some shit. This doesn't need to be on the first page.

-TC

[bongvan]

Originally Posted by TiredTendencies

lr;dr:

Of all the concerts I've been to in OAKLAND, (EDM and otherwise), most officers have been uniformed, and posted/patrolling one area, and posted as SECURITY. They break up fights, mainly.

.

hahahhahah if this massive was in oakland, somebody will get hurt and noone gets caught! LMAO. would be nice to have it at the oakland arena though.

[specialk]

Originally Posted by Klover

special k.....


bad post.



reread the educated posts in the rest of this thread, and the one from skills regarding the power outage.

yes klover after reading other posts and reading i think dyloots blog it was a power outage. So it wasnt the cops but it was an odd coinsidence. Its just that the same thing happended before at an underground im just wondering if cops have been known to ask the production crew to shut the power out. But seeing that this was a huge production and that they spent hella money, why would they? But anything is possible but more or less

If skills was supposely cooperating with police, skills would be snitching on ppl, giving names to cops of who they are and what they look like, i've never known them to do that.

Anyways i still had fun at pop and my lil play skit was just to make fun of this supposed conspriacy which really isnt' and not so much that big of a deal, at least not anymore

Whoever was parked in the M parking lot there were mini car parties and it made up for the power outage.

Originally Posted by codyishere

do you think before you talk/type?

umm of course theres going to be cops i dont blame skills at all for having them, its everyones own fault for dealing to people they dont know.

i met a guy at pop that gave me kandi that said Kid! and ive never seen the doode before, anyway he got arrested

Sometimes i think before i write. I will admit this was not a well thought post i just went for it. I make mistakes and im not always right. Sux that guy got arrested sorry to hear.

Originally Posted by rachieeee

whoaaa this thread got crazzy
i still don't appreciate the people calling me an idiot! lmao
i was only posting it because in another thread people were like OH NO SKILLS HAD NO IDEA ABOUT THE COPS AND BLABLAHBLAHfuckingblah.
and it's just like, duhhhh. of course they didd. meowwwwww.
i still think its a teeny tiny BIT messed up
idk, i guess i wish raves were how they used to be.
that's the first time i've ever experienced that at a rave, and im a type of person who takes in the energy of the whole party.. and it just gave me a really sketchy vibe the whole night. kinda ruined the party for me. but HEY, that's just me. don't take it personal, or call me an idiot. that's really not nice, i respect all of your opinions. >[:

Just for general knowledge uc's and cops have always been at parties. So even if they did know about them, they would have been there even if they didn't know. Can you blame them? It sux but its not because they peronally chose to have them there but they had a lot of ppl to keep safe honey. It's something i've learned to accept that any party i go to can be broken up, or can have or does have cops. Sry it ruined your vibe sweetie.

[robbytheraver]

Originally Posted by codyberatlis

i will never go to a skills event ever again... that was bull***t to turn on your own kind i have never seen undercover that bad in my entire life of raving. the undercovers were dressed as kandi kids for christ sake. a buddy of mine got booked becase when they(undercovers, dressed as kandi kids) asked him where they could get pills he pointed to a guy who was selling. when he pointed the cops grabbed my buddy and the dude who was selling, searched and booked my buddy for posetion of 3 pills. i never found out what happend to the other guy. after that i just couldnt enjoi myself at the rave i just wanted to go home and cry or bail him out. ohh and i heard from the jail it was 192 arrests. i dont sell but if i did i would really be scared.

i felt that the venue was crap the cop scene was crap and the power outage was crap. SKILLS ARE A BUNCH OF SELL OUTS. u just lost one last raver. POP totaly changed my outlook on techno and raving. it was fun before i had to watch my back every minute to make sure there wasnt a cop. True ravers are awsome, forget the police.

F*** the cops three thumbs way down

are you serieous?
THERE ARE UNDERCOVERS AT EVERY MASSIVE
im from so cal but this is nothing new
if skills denied the undercover operation there would be no etd pop 2008
your friend went to jail for being stupid never connect someone you dont know
in a night at least 100+ people i dont know ask me for thizz and what do i tell them Nope cant get it even though i really can... your friend pointed at some dude slangin and got both of them rolled

If your not dumb you wont go to jail the cops are there to bust people selling not people like me and you just thizzin and havin a good time they could care less

Ill be at the small ones and the massives and i wont be scared

Originally Posted by Louir

It was pretty sad.. A lot of people came up to me asking for pills too, I knew something was up. I'm not going to lie, those people that got caught, they deserved it.. You guys really need to look at the big picture. This event was a massive, out of 20,000 people, less than 100 was busted. What's the big fuss? Those people that got caught probably had less intelligence than half a toilet seat. Come on.

Couldnt agree more