Important Information regarding ETD POP

[Klover]

And pretty much every other rave as well. But I am focusing on this because it will have 10,000+ people and many of them...and some of us...sometimes lose track of something very important.

What I am talking about here, is the Last 'R' in Plur and the second 'R' if you go by plurr. This is not a debate regarding the acronym, but this comes from my plurr paper.


I realize that Most of the people on RL and other forums are a select few of the ravers out there. We rave more than a lot of them, the people who rave just as much know the gist of everything, and we discuss a lot of issues. As elitist as it sounds, in general we are more educated about the scene except for crews and the rare attendees that ALWAYS go yet don't go onto forums. my point?

It is OUR job to promote the true meaning of P.L.U.R.R. to make sure everyone has a SAFE night.

The most important things:


Respect.


In the rave world, Respect is treating the people and places around you the way you would want to be treated....but even better.


-RESPECTING EVENT FACILITIES-

Parking - Park only where it is permitted and, once again, don't hang out in the parking lot or on the streets. Don't throw trash and flyers on the ground. Keep as low a profile as possible.

Tagging - We lose locations because of tagging more than anything else. Tagging simply tells the landlord that we don't have any respect for him or his property even though it is the landlord that has been so kind to share his property with us. Tagging makes insurance rates climb. If you see someone tagging, explain to them that they are keeping you from being able to rave in the Northwest. Ask them if they want to continue to rave... then ask them to please stop. Make sure everyone in the area hears you so that they also become involved in making the tagger stop.

Trash - Many times the property owner is shocked by the trash left in the facility, especially bathrooms. It only takes a few seconds to find a trash can... a very worthwhile investment of your time. Trash and especially flyers should NEVER be dropped outdoors. The wind can blow them away and where they will never be found. It is very difficult to say "that trash was already there when we got here" when the trash is a bunch of rave flyers. Gum, candy and cigarette butts are other examples.

-RESPECT FOR OTHER RAVERS-

Respect is also about realizing that everyone's different. Bizarre as it may seem, not everyone thinks your whistle-blowing next to their ear enhances the total dance experience. If you really think people enjoy your trilling, and are blown away by the musical mastery evident in your one note mantra, then be fair and move around a lot. That way you leave everyone wanting more (maybe) rather than one poor bugger in front of you wanting less, much less.

yes, this also means that the 'hyphy' looking dude who is selling pills, wearing a long t, baggy jeans, and walking around with his friends has just as much right to be there as you do.

Unless he is impeding the safety of the party-goers/venue, judging him only adds to the negative vibe as well. Just ignore them if you have a problem:

Aggression/Violence - Part of the attraction of a rave is that it can be a place to escape the craziness of the rest of the world. Leave your personal problems at the door... don't bring them into the celebration. Alcohol often brings about aggressive behavior as well.

The rave scene prides itself on its peaceful nature so there is absolutely no tolerance for violence or aggression. This even includes any frustration that you may have with security, entry lines, etc.

A peaceful but enthusiastic attitude can quickly spread to others creating a pocket of "vibe" that everyone will want to be a part of. Acceptance of others, even those different from you, catches on quickly and creates a bond among all of us. When outsiders look in at our scene and see this bond, they cannot discredit it... they can only see something positive... perhaps it will be something that they will discuss with others. This is the easiest way that we can create a more positive public image!



The Security: If security starts giving you shit, you are most likely doing something illegal, inappropriate, wrong, or against the event rules. SUCK IT UP. Raves are normally illegal and when they are permitted tons of illegal shit is still going on. If they do not let you take a certain thing in with you, find a way to improvise if it is something very important. If you can do without it, than do without!

Respect yourself - Do not do things just because other people are doing them. YOU DO NOT HAVE TO TAKE DRUGS AT A RAVE. If you have doubts, are scared, or for any reason do not want to do drugs, please do not. Wait until you are with friends, are comfortable, and respect yourself enough to make this choice on your own.



*CARELESSNESS IS OVERCOME THROUGH ACCOUNTABILITY*

Carelessness, which sometimes is accidental, can easily be overcome through a system of accountability. It only takes two friends to commit to be accountable to each other in reminding the other if they are being careless. The more people you have in your accountability group (also called "true friends"), the less likely you are to do something careless. Create an accountability group with the friends you rave with the most.

All you have to do is give a simple reminder.... speak up and say, "I don't think it's such a good idea for you to do that." Here are some places where carelessness becomes a problem for each of us in the rave movement:

Forgetting about any of the above selfishness issues- Go ahead... re-read them!

Driving safely - There is nothing wrong with being too messed up or too tired to drive home... unless of course you try to drive anyway. Ask a more sober friend from your accountability group to drive or wait until someone is able to drive. Coffee and other stimulants won't do the trick.. Take your time so you and your friends can rave again another day!

Loitering outside of the venue - This only draws attention to the event and disturbs the neighborhood. Loitering also makes it more difficult to patrol a parking area to look for people breaking into cars or doing other selfish activities that hurt individual ravers and hurt the scene overall. When you're walking through a parking lot and you see people standing around ask them to please go inside... but explain to them why it is important for them to help in this regard.





Responsibility.


Acting safely/Acting responsibly - This is a broad area that has too many specific "infractions." Every once in a while just ask yourself (and the people you're accountable for) these questions...

What am I doing?
Am I directly/indirectly harming myself or other ravers?
Am I keeping someone else from having a great time?
Am I helping build a positive public image about the rave scene?

*IGNORANCE IS OVERCOME THROUGH COMMUNICATION AND EDUCATION*

Ignorance is the easiest problem to overcome but it also depends on individual efforts.. All we need to do is educate ourselves. But two things must happen before we can educate each other.

First, we must be willing to be educated... we must recognize that we want to change.

And secondly, we must communicate with each other.

Since we have no organized arena for ravers to come together and communicate we are held in the dark. We must find a centralized forum where together we can learn from our past mistakes and innovate our future. Until we find that forum, it is up to you to discuss these problems and re-shape our future.

The existence of rave culture depends entirely on you to simply talk with one another... to share all of these important issues with others... with people you meet for the first time.

Know what you're talking about - Rumors and misinformation are splitting us apart. Know the facts about the real reasons for "busts"... or the dangers of certain substances. Don't let yourself be used as a tool for a promoters personal gain... or mouthpiece for fabricated drug hysteria.

Know what you're taking -
If you choose to use drugs, be safe. We've already discussed unscrupulous drug dealers. Don't combine lots of different drugs! There are combinations of substances that can quickly become lethal. In fact, more drug related casualties are due to lethal combinations of drugs and alcohol than overdosing!

Let the DJ do the mixing!

Know your limit - Your accountability group can help you with this. Be careful trying to "bump" your dosage. If you decide you want to use substances, always let someone know exactly how much of what you're taking BEFORE you take it.

Know the law - Get to know the specific legalities of possessing controlled substances. Know the consequences if you're busted and ask yourself if it is worth the risk.

[Klover]

Know how to handle yourself with the police - Be cooperative but also know your rights regarding search and seizure laws (especially in searching a vehicle). Avoid dragging down the rave scene with you. Don't even mention raves if you have a run in with officers. Be afraid of the seriousness of the consequences but don't let yourself be intimidated to the point that you incriminate yourself.

Know what to do in case of an emergency - This is a very important area if we wish to police ourselves at raves. In case of an overdose or other drug related medical trauma follow these steps before calling an ambulance.


1)Move the victim to a safe, private and discreet area away from the noise and everyone else.
2)Find out EVERYTHING that they took... including dosage, combinations and alcohol.
3)Find the victim's friends.
4)Don't panic.
5)Find someone trustworthy and knowledgeable about those substances and get their advice.
6)Do NOT administer CPR, induce vomiting, or other first aid procedures unless fully capable and qualified.
7)In a hot venue, dehydration could be the problem, so try drinking some water.
8)If necessary, ask security to call for help or ambulance.

Nobody will penalize you for getting help, even if YOU are on drugs as well.

It's easy to TALK about PLUR, but without proper modeling it's just a meaningless acronym. You can teach people what you think the meaning of PLUR is all you want, you could ramble on and on about philosophical beliefs and clever meanings, but until someone experiences what it is to receive PLUR they'll never really understand anything about it.


We are the people that are in position to bring in the new ravers and show what a wonderful world it can be.

Please help me out with doing so.

[Mimick]

i rape little boys

[Chicago]

rape is the third "r" in "plurrr"


no, but seriously, rape is a definite respect yourself and ask yourself who you're surrounded by every once in a while. if you're getting bad vibes from the people dancing around you, you're not being paranoid if you decide to move.


nice post, klover.

[Klover]

Originally Posted by Chicago

rape is the third "r" in "plurrr"

That shit is funny, chicago.

[Mimick]

Originally Posted by Chicago

rape is a definite

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burn jews

[taskaev]

Originally Posted by Mimick

burn jews

nazi =]

[Chicago]

Originally Posted by Mimick

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thanks. i'm not sure what i would have done if people thought i looked down upon rape. the juggernaut would have never talked to me ever again!



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[big_rash_dog]

Fer Sher Brudda

[connorman1]

Well, concentrating here on the main post,
long but good, i've never yet been to a rave so i'm not really well... adapted, to the rave scene yet. but posts like this help alot. i really bealive in PLUR and think everyone should. shit the world would be a much better place if everyone did.

...i could see it now... a world wide week long rave... twood be amazing no?

but really i always try and find your meaningful posts klover they help alot to a noob like me XD i'll see you at POP

...i need to find a place to buy some kandi. klover what are the rules with kandi? i mean how do you exchange? i heard you put ones to give away on one said and ones you got on another and i dont really know bout that kinda stuff? help?

[Klover]

Originally Posted by connorman1

Well, concentrating here on the main post,
long but good, i've never yet been to a rave so i'm not really well... adapted, to the rave scene yet. but posts like this help alot. i really bealive in PLUR and think everyone should. shit the world would be a much better place if everyone did.

...i could see it now... a world wide week long rave... twood be amazing no?

but really i always try and find your meaningful posts klover they help alot to a noob like me XD i'll see you at POP

...i need to find a place to buy some kandi. klover what are the rules with kandi? i mean how do you exchange? i heard you put ones to give away on one said and ones you got on another and i dont really know bout that kinda stuff? help?

the technical way to trade is keeping the give-aways on one arm and the ones you recieve on another.

you link hands by clasping fingers and one person slides it onto your hand.
then you switch corresponding hands and do it again, but opposite person.

but thats just tradition. i've taken a piece off by myself before and just handed it to someone...didn't wanna brake it.

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thanks for the kind words, btw.

[Brandon_King]

This may be somewhat off topic..
actually nvm

I got 3 blue "F U's" yesterday
I think they are double or triple stacks
He said they were mostly MDA and cut with opiates
Has anyone ever taken these or had any experiences with them?
oppinions? hmm