poprox, i didn't hear you making post when the light it up thread went offtopic, or any other thread for that matter. just noting the hypocracy here.
i'm not saying nobody should talk about grills and tents and such things, please do. but dont make special cases for some things and not others. ricks been doing constructive/inclusive/proactive things for the scene probably longer than most of us have been in it. judge him by his actions not his words
. even tho theres great truth in some of his words as well.