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Originally Posted by delphis

the only way you can go until 4am is if you do 18+ but it is still very difficult to do. Also trying to allow under aged kids in there as well is a bit on the tricky part due to the fact that they use their in house security and are VERY strict. So the sweets ballroom is going to be played out for at least another year. also 2500 isn't really all that expensive for a venue. If you think it is too expensive you might want to consider not throwing a party of the same caliber as B&W. That party last night cost at least 15k to do, including lights sounds talaent, hotel rooms, plus all the other costs that come into play when trying to do a larger scale event. I would say start off small (a couple hundred people and try to do it right) then work you way up as you start to make money. But don't get a huge venue and try to do a large party because in the end it will be subpar and will probably loose you a lot of money or respect from ravers who will not attend your next event.


If you have any questions just pm or give me a call or come into skills and I will teach you a lot of things about the behind the scenes aspect to doing parties.

Don't worry, I've spoken with many a crews.
And of course I know the difference between smaller parties and thousands.
I would never want to be on the level of skills actually...
well...i'd like to be as well known and draw tons of people, but IMO i like the more underground feel, even if it is permitted.
I'm the type of raver that would rather put money down to get a permit on an abandoned building after fixing it, just to have the real 'rave' feel yet not have people come just to get it shut down.
Skills is my favorite massive crew so far though, because of the nice venues they find, the security they run, and the line-ups they've booked.

ETD-Love was exactly how a mini-massive should be run, at a gorgeous venue.

funny that i mention that, because that was an 18+ event Buuuuut they let in a ton of minors.

Its the factor of marking it 18+ to keep out certain irresponsible youngsters yet also relying on a good amount of <18 year olds to boost sales.
or, you have the security that that says hell no to anyone <18.

I know of a permitted venue that is slightly below 2,500, but like you said, smaller capacity.

I'd say B&W cost 12k in the end, but how much was upfront?
and also I bet they paid a ton more for the visuals then I would put down for a different style of lighting, but just as awesome.

I also just have a different approach to everything as a whole.
Notice how for Deco in the hallway they simply used trash bags and printed lines of paper, yet it worked well.

But inside...not really any deco.

You know how far going to a wholesale fabric store can go?
Going to stores that are getting rid of their seasonal props?
Creating stuff out of your own talent?
Or even asking people if they want to send in their own art?
For an abandoned building that i could fuck up, I'd call in all the good taggers i know and have them spray their art on all of the walls, in fitting colors and words relating to the theme.
Just that combined with a floor of glow-paint, would be enough...and how much would that cost? glow paint, brushes, im sure the taggers would do it for free if i bought their paint....under 100. and thats just the paint....

but obviously yes this is a different level of event as im trying to bring it old skool, eventually

catch my drift?

(P.S. if only i could spew all my other ideas, ones that are applicable to actual venues, on here without a fear of getting them stolen)

Originally Posted by Mitchell

Was the blue thumbs up kinda dark blue, pretty hard pressed and pretty thick? 'Cause I rolled all night on 1.5 of those without any problems other than being pretty tweaky this morning. I wonder if there are multiple different blue thumbs pills, or if they just hit you differently than me?

Yes there are different thumbs up.
a ton of people have been saying they are the worst pills they have ever taken, left them nauseous, and awful comedown, but other people said they were a good roll and just fine.

I think comedown in mentality and if you take 3+...like...duh you'll have an awful sunday.

no more fuckin seratonin, energy, and sore as fuck.

Originally Posted by taskaev

it was amazing that this event lacked all the thugness and ptotness it felt more of a real raver crowd rather then the usual thugs jumping at u trying to sell pills and the ptots everwhere

dude whats a rave without thugs and ptots?

seriously you thought this felt more like a rave?

and hey im not saying "oh this is a rave! thats a rave! thats not a rave! blah blah blah!"

but compared to taste test, G funk, and several others?

meh whatevs.